7SD and 9SD Canberra no longer?

raymondjpg · December 10, 2024, 11:22:28 PM

Just this week I observed that the Black Mountain transmitter in Canberra was doubling up on transmitting channels 7HD and 9HD, and that it was no longer transmitting 7SD and 9SD.

That in itself did not concern me too much, but all my PVRs are still showing 7SD and 9SD as channels and EPGs associated with those channels. The T2 and Icebox BYO are IceTV enabled, the U4 is on FTA EPG and autotimers. On a cursory look at one or two scenarios those channels are playing live TV without issue. My guess, just using the HD streams in place of what were previously SD streams.

My question is should I be doing a rescan of all these devices? Straightforward enough for the Beyonwiz PVRs, maybe with some modification to Favourites, but possibly less so with Icebox where a reset might be more efficient than trying to do things manually in the TVHeadend GUI.

Is anyone else seeing similar changes to SD and HD channels in other locations?

blip · December 11, 2024, 07:00:36 AM

It's the same in Orange. This Wikipedia article lists all the Australian channels and their resolutions.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_digital_television_channels_in_Australia

A rescan should result in the former SD LCNs changing their names to 7HD and 9HD.

prl · December 11, 2024, 10:00:07 AM

Quote from: blip on December 11, 2024, 07:00:36 AMA rescan should result in the former SD LCNs changing their names to 7HD and 9HD.

I've just checked in Canberra, and that is the case, at least for Beyonwiz PVRs. However, on Beyonwizes, the channel picons will not change to match the channel names. That will require changes to the picon set. I can make those changes, but I'm not sure about whether I can get them distributed.

If you had the Seven or Nine SD channels in your Beyonwiz Favourites list, it may need fixing up after the rescan.

raymondjpg · December 11, 2024, 10:19:34 AM

Quote from: blip on December 11, 2024, 07:00:36 AMA rescan should result in the former SD LCNs changing their names to 7HD and 9HD.

A location scan of the U4 (FTA EPG) has resulted in the two channels (LCN 6 and 8) still occupying their place in the Favourites lineup, but still displaying their SD channel picons and <n/a> in place of a channel title. They appear to be still playing live TV when invoked, presumably an HD stream.

I Haven't tried a rescan on the T2 (IceTV EPG) as it might be a bit more tricky with EPG selection. I guess at some stage it would be worthwhile, but currently everything still looks to be working, at least with live TV streaming and capacity to set timers.

A resccan of the IceBox looks to be more problematic. I have done it manually in the past by clearing muxes and services then forcing a rescan, but my recollection is that it then needed quite a bit of work with the EPG. So a reset looks to be on the cards, unless someone has worked out another way of refreshing the TV services lineup in situ.

blip · December 11, 2024, 10:38:11 AM

Quote from: prl on December 11, 2024, 10:00:07 AMThat will require changes to the picon set. I can make those changes, but I'm not sure about whether I can get them distributed.

If you end up making a new picon set! I have no picon on LCN 58 which is you.tv, another of the not very useful shopping channels. Bonus points if you decide to add one.

prl · December 11, 2024, 10:50:44 AM

Quote from: blip on December 11, 2024, 10:38:11 AMIf you end up making a new picon set! I have no picon on LCN 58 which is you.tv, another of the not very useful shopping channels. Bonus points if you decide to add one.

I have in fact made a picon set that covers you.tv, and committed it to the picon repository, but I don't have the ability to distribute it in its usual form as a downloadable package.

Any changes I make to the picons for these most recent changes may suffer the same fate.

prl · December 11, 2024, 10:57:38 AM

Quote from: raymondjpg on December 11, 2024, 10:19:34 AMA location scan of the U4 (FTA EPG) has resulted in the two channels (LCN 6 and 8) still occupying their place in the Favourites lineup, but still displaying their SD channel picons and <n/a> in place of a channel title.

As I said:

Quote from: prl on December 11, 2024, 10:00:07 AMIf you had the Seven or Nine SD channels in your Beyonwiz Favourites list, it may need fixing up after the rescan.

The "<n/a>" entries in the scan are still likely to get the corresponding HD channel if you select a channel using them, except if you've put the the 7 Prime channel at LCN 61 into Favourites, or use it in Terrestrial TV LCN (before re-scanning): it seems to have been removed completely.