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#16
I'm frequently finding that IceTV is creating airdate based series and episode numbers, whenever an episode has 2 parts.  I  discussed this problem with Daniel way back in Jun 2019, and I think it was after this discussion that IceTV started doing this.  I have included an excerpt of that email discussion in italics below. 

On Jun 10 2019 at 11:47am Daniel wrote: I think there is definitely going to be an issue where the Australian broadcasters split an episode into two parts when it is not listed as two parts on TVDB, we might need to just hold off and not add the series and episode numbers for these and let it show up as the dates to ensure they both get recorded.

BUT, that discussion related to situations where a network would split the SAME episode over 2 different nights.
What I have been finding is that you also often do this whenr two consecutive episodes, with DISTINCT/different episode numbers in TVDB, have the same name, with parts 1 & 2 in the title.  For example, next Mon 16/3 in Sydney on ABC22, you have
The Office (US)
10/4/11—Classy Christmas - Part 1

But in TVDB, this "Part1" episode has a distinct episode number S07E11 and "Part2" is S07E12.

Because you don't use these episode numbers, my Plex PVR records all of these airdate based episodes, even when I already have those episodes in my library.

Is there any way that you can refine your systems to only use the airdate episode naming where the different parts DON'T have their own distinct episode numbers?

Thanks,
Peter
#17
IceTV EPG Content / Re: Incorrect episode labelled
November 25, 2019, 05:50:49 PM
I noticed the same problem - I'm also using Plex.  Definitely the latest version of PMS. 
I looked into this just before Daniel replied, but thought I'd go ahead and report my findings anyway

Plex is showing all episodes of this show as "S0 E1" which is a bit weird.
The IceTV XMLTV file labels all episodes as <episode-num system="thetvdb.com">series/371180</episode-num>
I'm not sure if Plex recognises those types of episodes.  And even if it did, they're all labelled the same.
Could IceTV maybe add a <episode-num system="SxxExx"> tag for these shows as well?

Failing that, I have a suggestion for DeFenn.
Episode 2 is screening again on 9Go at 7:30pm on Wed (at least in Sydney - I don't know where you are).
With the current episode numbering, this would again refuse to record.
But if you rename the existing episode from your Plex library, and Scan Library Files, then the new episode should record.  Do the same with the Wed episode, so that episode 3 can record next Sunday night.  Then rename them all correctly after that! 

Or you could just watch and delete them before the next episode screens - but you might be like me and record far more stuff that you have time to watch! :-)
#18
Hi,
Trial and Error has a few missing episode numbers this week.  As a result, back-to-back episodes are seen as the same episode by Plex and it will record only the first one.
Sydney TV on 7Flix 2:00pm - 3:00pm every day this week -and probably next week.
Mon - OK
Tue - Should be S01E04 and S01E05
Wed - OK
Thu - OK
Fri - Should be S01E10 and S01E11
presumably subsequent episodes will screen next week
Regards,
Peter
#19
IceTV EPG Content / Re: Mrs. Brown's Boys
October 24, 2019, 08:30:45 PM
I'm out of my depth here.  I did some research but it didn't help much and I don't imagine to know more about XMLTV than you guys do.  I don't know how to access the Plex XMLTV, but I had a quick look last night at the XMLTV file you make available to non-plex users, and I assume it's pretty similar.  You have the episodes identified with a number of different numbering systems...
  <episode-num system="SxxExx">E09</episode-num>
  <episode-num system="xmltv_ns">.8.</episode-num>
  <episode-num system="thetvdb.com">series/219631</episode-num>
  <episode-num system="thetvdb.com">episode/5081710</episode-num>
  <episode-num system="imdb.com">series/tt1819022</episode-num>
I don't know which one(s) Plex looks at, and couldn't find any documentation on this, but I'm guessing it's probably the xmltv_ns system?  I assume you have more direct access to Plex staff than I do since you're noted by them as the EPG provider for Australia? 
Could you try changing this to...
  <episode-num system="SxxExx">S00E09</episode-num>
  <episode-num system="xmltv_ns">-1.8.</episode-num>
Or if they don't accept the -1, could you leave out the xmltv_ns line completely?

I don't really care that much about Mrs. Brown's Boys specifically.  Just thought it would be worth trying to find a solution to this, because otherwise there's no way to deal with "Specials" from any show.
#20
IceTV EPG Content / Re: Mrs. Brown's Boys
October 23, 2019, 07:31:00 AM
Quote from: Daniel Hall at IceTV on October 22, 2019, 05:14:56 PM
This is actually a really interesting one, the XMLTV format for season and episode numbering if 0 based, so season 1 is listed as season 0 in the file.
I am not actually sure if it can have a -1 for the season or episode numbers to try and get this to work correctly.
I don't understand WHY xmltv would use 0 for season1, but xmltv format is a bit beyond my expertise!  Lots of shows have "specials" episodes, so I imagine this is a frequent problem and there must be some standard way of labelling them?  But I don't know if anyone other than Plex names these as S0? 

If you want to try putting -1 on one of next week's episodes (S0018 and S0019, which have already been screened recently) then I can let you know asap how plex recording handles this, and there'll still be plenty of time to fix it for other people if it doesn't work.

Here's another interesting point...  Before writing my original post, I had tried creating "artificial" episodes in my Plex database.  For instance, if Plex/IceTV labels an episode as the non-existent S01E07, then I create a .TS file with that name and scan it into the database.  But Plex still tries to record this episode again.  I really doubt that Plex could "know" that there is no S01E07 of the show.  So there must be some difference for Plex, between shows that you assign no season to, and shows that you actually label S1, even though Plex shows them both as S1 on the guide.  Does that make sense?  Can you do anything with that information?
If that's the case, then perhaps a work-around would be to create your own numbering system for specials, calling them for instance S99.  Then at least if that numbering system was consistent, then it wouldn't record episodes I already had.  But that would only be part of the solution - for this to work I would still need to COPY and rename, rather than move, these episodes into a specials folder so that Plex could identify them, and pull the metadata from TVDB. 
#21
IceTV EPG Content / Re: Looney Tunes
October 22, 2019, 12:55:07 PM
thanks Tiphanee,
I'll keep an eye out for the new shows in the guide
#22
IceTV EPG Content / Re: Tom and Jerry
October 22, 2019, 12:53:09 PM
Thanks Tiphanee,
The future episodes now appear to have the correct show name.  The poster hasn't changed, but that doesn't really matter.
I don't suppose there is anything more you can do with episode numbers for cartoon shows like these with multiple episodes screened together?
For instance, today's episode has no episode number in your guide, and the episodes 'Truffle Trouble / Cuckoo Clock / Plant Food' are S03E59, S03E61 and S03E62
On Thursday, you have it labelled as S03E21, whereas it actually contains S03E70, S03E60 and S03E57
I understand of course if this is either not possible or simply too much trouble!
#23
IceTV EPG Content / Re: Mrs. Brown's Boys
October 22, 2019, 12:40:31 PM
Thanks Tiphanee,
Unfortunately, at least in Plex, these episodes all still appear wrongly.  I have refreshed my guide, and you will see from the screenshot attached, that the Special episodes you have labelled with an episode number but no season, now appear as either Season 1 (which they aren't) or as dates instead of episode number
I guess I was hoping that you could label them in such a way that Plex could record them as Season 00 or Specials.  Maybe that's not possible?
#24
IceTV EPG Content / Re: Mrs. Brown's Boys
October 22, 2019, 12:33:08 PM
Thanks Vader,
I have been relabelling the episodes similarly to how you have described.  That's not the problem.  I was hoping that IceTV could fix this so that it didn't keep re-recording episodes I already have, when IceTV/Plex gives it a different name
#25
IceTV EPG Content / The Flash - missing episode number
October 19, 2019, 10:23:40 PM
The Flash
'Attack On Gorilla City'
10 Peach, 11:00pm, Mon, 21 Oct 2019

has no episode number.  It should be S03E13
#26
IceTV EPG Content / Tom and Jerry
October 19, 2019, 09:54:17 PM
The episodes you have listed as "Tom and Jerry Tales" on 9Go! Sydney at 4pm Weekdays are not a part of the "Tom and Jerry Tales" listed in TVDB.
They are part of "The Tom and Jerry Show" TVDBID#ID280446
#27
IceTV EPG Content / Looney Tunes
October 19, 2019, 08:45:14 PM
I thought it was good to see Looney Tunes on your TV guide, and provided a chance to relive some classic animation, and maybe see if my kids enjoyed these classics.
And it was great to see that you even included episode numbers and names for these, but unfortunately they don't match up with the TVDB so Plex and Traktv can't identify these episodes.
You show two different shows screening...

1) The Looney Tunes Show - this show is TVDBID#ID248368, but the episodes being screened are not a part of this show, they are actually in "New Looney Tunes" TVDBID#300683.  And each screening is actually 4 episodes.  So for instance the episode screened on 19/10/19 in Sydney and labelled "The Looney Tunes Show - 2018-04-29 00 00 00 - Quiet The Undertaking Bugs Bunny Wet Feet There's A Soccer Born Every Minute" needs to be relabeled in Plex as "New Looney Tunes - S01E93-S01E96 - Quiet The Undertaking Bugs Bunny Wet Feet There's A Soccer Born Every Minute". 

2) Classic Looney Tunes - although this is descriptive, there is no such show, and Plex for some reason matches this show to "Baby Looney Tunes" TVDBID#71301.
The correct show is just "Looney Tunes" TVDBID#72514.  Of course the correct naming would be of only limited benefit if you actually can provide the episode numbers and/or names too, and I don't know if you are given that information?  For instance the episode screen in Sydney on 19/10/19 and labelled "Classic Looney Tunes - 2019-10-19 07 00 00 - Episode 10-19" actually includes all of these episodes:
S1959E02 Mouse-Placed Kitten
S1952E29 Full Coverage
S1964E09 Hawaiian Aye Aye

Any chance you could correct these?  It's nice to collect some of these shows, but probably not worth the effort if I have to relabel every episode manually.
Thanks.
#28
IceTV EPG Content / Mrs. Brown's Boys
October 19, 2019, 08:17:30 PM
For weeks I've had problems with Mrs.Browns Boys episode numbers, and figured I'd just put up with it, as they appear to have a lot of their episodes named as specials rather than seasons, and I was happy just to rename these episodes after recording.  But it's becoming more of a problem, continually trying to re-record episodes I already have, and conflicting with other recordings, so I thought I'd ask in case you can fix it.  I'm not sure how IceTV and Plex can deal with "Special" episodes?

Here are the examples from the current guide.  All on Sydney TV, Channel 7Two, recording with Plex DVR
* Sun 20/10 9:30pm labelled S03E07 Mammy Christmas - is actually Special 04
* Sun 20/10 10:15pm labeled as S03E08 The Virgin Mammy - is actually Special 05
* Mon 21/10 10:30pm labelled as S04E01 Buckin' Mammy  - actually Special 06
* Thu 24/10 10:10pm labelled as 4/9/14—Who's a Pretty Mammy? - actually Special 07
* Fri 25/10 11:15pm labelled as S01E07 - Mammy's Gamble - actually Special 10

I've even tried adding entries in the Plex database, creating for instance a copy of the episode and labelling it S01E07 - Mammy's Gamble, but even with this in the database, Plex is still (for a reason I cannot yet fathom), trying to re-record this episode.

Any ideas how you can better label these Specials?
#29
Life Sentence - Sydney - Thu 19/9/19 - 12:40am
Most other programs have this episode listed as S01E09, rather than S01E08.  The latter was already screened 12/9
Regards,
Peter
#30
IceTV EPG Content / Lethal Weapon - not a repeat
August 04, 2019, 07:58:41 AM
Plex XMLTV - Sydney 9HD Thu 8th Aug 10:45pm
This episode is a premiere but is not being set to record unless I set to record repeats too