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General Discussions / Re: IceTV Resurrected
« on: November 06, 2015, 09:30:43 AM »
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Farewell ICE TV.

There hasn't been an RSS feed for about a year now.

That's weird, because it's still there. It even started working again today when I paid for a month.

It's linked from the TV Guide page, among others:
<link href="/tv-guide/index.cgi?op=myupcomingshows_rss&auth_uuid=REDACTED" rel="alternate" type="application/rss+xml" />

Mine is still there too. Maybe it is just legacy, I know I still get RSS feeds form both Facebook and Twitter, but they stopped offering them years ago.

General Discussions / Re: IceTV Resurrected
« on: November 05, 2015, 01:38:33 AM »
From expiring 20 Jan 2021, to 14 Nov 2015, and now 5 Nov 2015.

And so it begins:
Your subscription expired on November 05, 2015

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Farewell ICE TV.

General Discussions / Re: IceTV Resurrected
« on: October 16, 2015, 01:24:13 PM »
Great news Dave.

General Discussions / Re: Thanks and farwell
« on: October 13, 2015, 09:09:43 PM »
Thanks for everything Dave, best of luck in your future, and too all those ICE staff affected by this.

SKIPPA / Re: IceTv in Voluntary Administarion
« on: October 07, 2015, 09:51:38 PM »
This is truly horrid, I hope for all the staff they can come out the other side of this and still operate as they once did.

SKIPPA / Re: autoskip pricing
« on: July 02, 2015, 10:57:44 PM »
Yeah, I am sure all those that paid $449 last week are just ecstatic that they have the same deal for $399.

SKIPPA / Re: autoskip pricing
« on: July 02, 2015, 06:26:37 PM »
For those not watching the pre-order thread, here is more salt to rub into the wounds of horrid communication.

SKIPPA / Re: Skippa Pre-Order
« on: July 02, 2015, 06:25:30 PM »
I hate harping on it, but... 

Then don't!

This thread does seem to have turned into a whinge fest.

If they didn't keep changing the story, or more to the point provide either misleading or just a complete lack of info, then they wouldn't have upset so many of us.

Now they have this just make it all clear as mud. I am disgusted with the way ICE has handled this. It has been so misleading with what the real deal is. I know it is their product and service, but they have flat out falsely advertised the options in pre-order program.

SKIPPA / Re: Skippa Pre-Order
« on: July 02, 2015, 12:02:15 PM »

"Not sure why you would think IceTV has not manufactured and extensively tested pre-production units yet."

From IceTV email of the 19/06/15:
   "Next week, we'll manufacture our first batch of SKIPPAs in a pre-production run."

That was a poor choice of words from us, that some of you are misinterpreting.

No, that is a poor choice of words that we are interpreting as written.

SKIPPA / Re: autoskip pricing
« on: July 02, 2015, 11:55:25 AM »
No, the first ad did not mention that the autoskip is part of the special offer  (as it proclaimed loudly for the IceTV subscription)  The fact that  it wasn't built into the unit out of the  box wasn't mentioned until this ad.
And no, I am "whinging" because I don't like false advertising, which is what this was, and I would get a bad taste in my mouth, even if I had purchased one already, because I do agree that they  are making  it up as they go, which does not fill me with confidence.

Actually it was clear to those who read between the lines that the pre-order was a bargain. There were 3 balloons indicating 3 benefits of the initial 'pre-order offer':
  • Red outline: Free IceTV for the life of your SKIPPA.
  • Green outline: No Annual Fees - ever!
  • Solid Blue: $399 $599 RRP inc. GST Save $200
The red and green balloons suggested (to me) that the 'Free IceTV" and "No Annual Fees - ever" were 2 separate benefits of the pre-order offer and were subject to change.

Contextually that makes no sense. As you have said, you would have to read between the lines, or as I would put it, ignore the English language.
Point Two can only be read as a reference to point One.

SKIPPA / Re: autoskip pricing
« on: June 21, 2015, 12:28:33 AM »
As per my post above - The Skippa that has been advertised, ie. the first 1,000, has come with eternal subscriptions. Both IceTV and AutoSkip.

No, no it wasn't and this is what is off putting to everyone. The first lot of emails, press details and your website mentioned NOTHING of a sub fee for AutoSkip. Not once did it mention that the first 1,000 had an eternal sub to AutoSkip. A Sub to AutoSkip has never ben mentioned until the email and website update for this second round of 500 units. Please do not make such mis-leading comments, they are outright wrong.

Regarding any future offers, as noted, we are like every other vendor, and our pricing is subject to change over time.

It is your right to change pricing over time, but so far ICE TV has mis-lead consumers as to what to expect the cost of owning this unit is. I believe this is what is commonly referred to as false advertising. Not advertising a fee is the same as advertising the wrong fee. This is the type of crap that gets some consumers so pissy they file complaints with the ACCC. ICE need to rectify this and clarify the fee structure very clearly on their site to stop mis-leading consumers about what the cost of ownership is.

SKIPPA / Re: autoskip pricing
« on: June 20, 2015, 02:58:22 AM »
So, regular (after release) purchasers need to purchase an Ice-TV subscription to have all the EPG recording features AND the "Ad-Skipping" subscription to skip the advertisements !!

No, ICE sub is for lifetime of your Skippa.

I guess this AutoSkip sub is how they are attempting to make up for all Skippa owners now never having to pay for an ICE sub. While I can understand trying to get the regular revenue back, how this has been handled is appalling.

SKIPPA / Re: Skippa Pre-Order
« on: June 19, 2015, 10:06:06 PM »
There is a thread about this BS news on AutoSkip sub fee -
They haven't bothered to update the site to actually explain this.

SKIPPA / Re: autoskip pricing
« on: June 19, 2015, 10:04:22 PM »
Cached version of site,  -
As I thought, NOTHING about a fee for AutoSkip, not even a remote vague description than none of us didn't interpret correctly.
All it says is
['"*Saving is based on 5 x standard annual IceTV subscription fees valued at $99 per year."']

Even now, the only clue to the fee is this new purple highlighted area. Nowhere else on the site does it say that AutoSkip is a fee based service.

This is extremely underhanded and was mis-leading to all those that were uncertain on getting in early. I am sure it was part of everyone's calculation.

Edit: From first email. Again NOTHING about avoiding an AutoSkip subscription fee:

SKIPPA / Re: Skippa Pre-Order
« on: June 10, 2015, 10:08:56 PM »
New Beyonwiz T4 just got announced -
Interesting to see how this stacks with the Skippa, ICE TV seems to be working with it too.

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