IceBox Menu overscan problem

Started by StephenIsmay, April 19, 2024, 08:36:28 AM

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StephenIsmay

My new IceBox is connected to a Panasonic 65inch TV and nothing i seem to do in the TV menu seems to fix my overscan problem, is there any adjustment i can make in KODI?

TimC

Quote from: StephenIsmay on April 19, 2024, 08:36:28 AMMy new IceBox is connected to a Panasonic 65inch TV and nothing i seem to do in the TV menu seems to fix my overscan problem, is there any adjustment i can make in KODI?

Yes there is.

1. From the main Menu, select the Settings "Cog" for the Settings page.
2. On the Settings page select Interface Box to show the Settings/Interface page.
3. On the Settings/Interface page menu, select Skin and then -Zoom.

This allows you to adjust the overall size of the picture.  I find the for my LG, about -6% does the job.
 
Icebox, Fetch box (Not IceTV Capable)

StephenIsmay


Daniel Hall at IceTV

The proper way to get rid of overscan is to set your settings to "Expert" (this can be changed on any of the actual settings pages on the left hand side.

The setting to fix it is under "Settings" and then "Display", and when set to "Expert" the second last option is "Video calibration", this allows proper control of how big the IceBox output is.

Most TV's will have a setting for it, but it's not always called overscan sadly.
Regards,

Daniel.
CTO.

MD

Hi,  can you tell us the model number of the Panasonic TV so we can find out where the setting is?

DeltaMikeCharlie

Quote from: Daniel Hall at IceTV on April 19, 2024, 02:22:06 PMThe proper way to get rid of overscan is to set your settings to "Expert" (this can be changed on any of the actual settings pages on the left hand side.

The setting to fix it is under "Settings" and then "Display", and when set to "Expert" the second last option is "Video calibration", this allows proper control of how big the IceBox output is.

Most TV's will have a setting for it, but it's not always called overscan sadly.

I recently encountered the same issue when I switched TV screens and this fix worked for me.  Many thanks.

Daniel Hall at IceTV

At the end of the day though, it's much better just to disable overscan in your TV. It will likely be called something else that just overscan though, you would need to check in the manual of your TV to see what it is called.

Also some TV's allow you to set a name for an input and have a number of options to choose from, if you select "PC" this can also disable overscan in the TV.

Speaking of TV settings, I personally would always disable any of the following settings (but that comes down to personal preference):

  • Frame interpolation
  • Video interpolation
  • Motion smoothing
  • Motion plus
  • Smooth motion
  • Enhanced motion
  • TruMotion (LG)
  • Auto Motion Plus (Samsung)
  • Motionflow (Sony)
Regards,

Daniel.
CTO.

raymondjpg

Quote from: Daniel Hall at IceTV on January 16, 2025, 11:01:22 AMSpeaking of TV settings, I personally would always disable any of the following settings (but that comes down to personal preference):

  • Frame interpolation
  • Video interpolation
  • Motion smoothing
  • Motion plus
  • Smooth motion
  • Enhanced motion
  • TruMotion (LG)
  • Auto Motion Plus (Samsung)
  • Motionflow (Sony)
You have to wonder why TV manufacturers persist with this. Motion smoothing is generally unnecessary these days, and always did look horrible. Maybe it's worth pointing out for folk who may have it implemented on older TVs.
Beyonwiz T2, Beyonwiz U4, IceBox BYO with Hauppauge WinTV-dualHD (x2), Hauppauge WinTV-quadHD

DeltaMikeCharlie

Quote from: Daniel Hall at IceTV on January 16, 2025, 11:01:22 AMAt the end of the day though, it's much better just to disable overscan in your TV.
Agreed.  If you don't have an old TV that does not have that ability.

Daniel Hall at IceTV

Quote from: raymondjpg on January 16, 2025, 11:48:14 AMYou have to wonder why TV manufacturers persist with this. Motion smoothing is generally unnecessary these days, and always did look horrible. Maybe it's worth pointing out for folk who may have it implemented on older TVs.

Completely agree, even when it's done well on modern tv's it just looks unnatural.
Regards,

Daniel.
CTO.

Daniel Hall at IceTV

Quote from: DeltaMikeCharlie on January 16, 2025, 12:48:41 PMAgreed.  If you don't have an old TV that does not have that ability.

True, the old TV I used for testing was like that, it was a nightmare as the overscan fixes had to re-done after each reset (this applied to Beyonwiz as well).
Regards,

Daniel.
CTO.