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It would not surprise me at all if this was the cause of many of the issues people are having, the heat sink after a few hours of operation is literally too hot to touch. My thermal infrared temp gun says it's running at a mere 84 degrees at the base of the heat sink, that's just totally unacceptable.

I wouldn't be surprised at all if this was in fact the cause of much of the rebooting.



Mark

Hmmm.. Maybe time for a liquid cooling solution :)

gib

Thanks PRL, will check those out as well. My wife is leaning towards just getting one with the HDD supplied  anyway so I may go that track but will check the Beyonwiz forums before deciding.

Might actually want to check prices...

Barebones T4                    $599.00 from BeyonWiz  ($749.00 with 1TB drive)
3TB Seagate Video Drive   $173.75 from MegaBuy w/shipping  (Seagate Video 3.5 HDD, 3TB, SATA 6Gb/s [ST3000VM002]

                            Total    $772.75

3TB Seagate Barracuda (not the above mentioned video drive) and the barebones BeyonWiz equals the same as the 1TB BeyonWiz. So 3 times the storage for the same price.

gib

There are two parts to the IceTV Service, the first is the guide and the second is the remote setting of timers (which is far more powerful than the native abilities of most, if not all, PVRs. For me the combination of both of these is well worth the proposed price.

If you think the price is too much, you do not have to pay it.

Ian

I agree. It's an excellent service.

Should be a way to "Like" a post without having to actually post :)

gib

The first bit of good news in all of this. I've just received an email from paypal saying I will receive a full refund of $417.00 within 3 to 5 days. I'm one of those that never received my Skippa.

Waiting for my bank to hopefully tell me the same thing. They've given me a provisional credit pending final outcome. Might have to use that for a T4 when its final :)

gib

Great news.

No problems with the new pricing, and PVR count. I've got a Toppy 2400 and a WMC PC. Think I might get a T4 now to replace the Skippa that I didn't receive.

Cheers and look forward to hearing (or reading) the whole sad saga one day soon.

gib

Take it to the origin of your payment if you get no satisfaction out of PayPal. I took my complaint to my credit card provider, and they have already provided a "Provisional" refund.

gib

You would think someone would invest in the Icetv service ...

Read Dave at IceTV's farewell message. There was. They couldn't secure some of the IceTV staff that they thought they needed to keep it running.

So Dave, what do they need? There's a few thousand of us out here, maybe we could all figure something out.

gib

I expect we'll get some kind of work from the administrators soon one way or the other.

Wonder what kind of money it would take to get the guide part of the business.

Come on someone..... Keep the IceTV Guide service going :)

It'd be nice to know what kind of money it would take to keep the company going. Maybe an investment group of existing IceTV/Skippa people could scrape enough up to keep the company viable.

gib

Dave, if the plug is pulled, is there any chance of a f/w upgrade that will give the Skippa access to FTA EPG?

That is the plan. We all own Skippas ourselves and don't want them to become doorstoppers either.

Good luck to you Dave. Hope things work out OK, for you the rest of the crew there, and for IceTV.

gib

Thanks gib. We're all hoping for a good outcome.

Personally I'm thinking more about those still waiting to receive their Skippas or replacements for DOA Skippas.

Yep, I understand. I'm one of those who was looking forward to this week when my Skippa shipping notice was supposed to go out.. LOL

Well, live and learn I guess. I've been a crowd funder for quite a few things on Kickstart and never lost out yet. I was just looking forward to a PVR that actually worked as advertised in conjunction with IceTV guide service.  I must say my Windows Media Center PC has been pretty reliable for the most part. So guess maybe I'll invest in some new harddrives and stick with it. I've got a quad tuner in it and it's been pretty amazing.

So here's hoping that IceTV Guide service does stick around.

Cheers

gib

Dave, if the plug is pulled, is there any chance of a f/w upgrade that will give the Skippa access to FTA EPG?

That is the plan. We all own Skippas ourselves and don't want them to become doorstoppers either.

Good luck to you Dave. Hope things work out OK, for you the rest of the crew there, and for IceTV.

gib

Well, I just talked to my bank (Wells Fargo) in the states and filed a claim for undelivered goods. The lady told me I'd have a resolution in 10 business days so guess I'll see what happens.

Good luck everyone.

gib

Agreed Ian,

I think its *reasonably* common knowledge that IceTV don't hold any stock themselves, i doubt everyone knows this but i think enough people do to know this is true. They take the order and the item is then dispatched directly from the importer, in this case UEC.

My Skippa was definitely sent to me from Altech, not IceTV. I know they do the same thing with Topfield and other brands too so they obviously leverage a deal with the importer for them to hold onto the stock.

Regardless of where the stock is however, it does not look likely that UEC will ever release the items when they have obviously not been paid for them. Why would they...and with $15k in the bank, its not likely they can ever be paid.

The whole thing is a mess, very sad situation, even worse if the guide goes too.

I'd hope that maybe UEC would contact all the customers that have units waiting and agree to send them out for a fee (cost).

Then, I'm sure someone could probably write new firmware to use the Freeview EPG data embedded in channel stream. Or  maybe IceTV Guide will continue.

I'd just like to get the one I paid for since I doubt I'm ever going to see my money again.

It's be interesting to know where $600,000.00 or so went to if now paying for the Skippas.

gib

Ahh, so it is.  Easy for you Mark, it's still before midnight for a sand groper!   ;)

Interesting reading - only $15K in their company bank account!

And that will already have been sucked up by the fees just to file that paperwork.

gib