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If you ask nicely on the Beyonwiz forum, they may extend it again.

http://beyonwiz.com.au/forum/viewtopic.php?f=55&t=9598&p=128448&hilit=100off#p128448

"The requested topic does not exist".

My understanding is that 7 has broadcast rights for previous series but only 9 has rights for the current/new season.
If so, every BB episode on the 7 network will be a repeat.

You are correct.
7 have only previously broadcast episodes. They don't mark them as a repeat because for their network they are not.

Haven't checked my email, but logged into PayPal and found the $417 sitting in my account.
Thanks to this forum for pointing out that PayPal was an option to recover funds.

I haven't had the refusal email from PayPal, possibly because of the good. Work done by those who have.
I did check my claim today and see that they have emailed the supplier for the second time, yesterday.
The claim must be finalised by the 18th according to the PayPal website.

I'm making a huge assumption here, but did the essential people in the IceTV hierarchy buy the business?
Because if they did then I believe the company is now in the best hands possible.
I also noted that someone posted that they may not be confident in subscribing again after doing their money on advance subscriptions.
Well the good news is you should never do more than 8 bucks under the new plans.
Though not an IceTV subscriber myself, I'm rapt that the program is up and running and that the staff now have some certainty in employment.
Good luck all.

How is the Skippa, a DVR box, not a tangible unit?
I think they are mistaking the Skippa for the IceTV program.
You may need to send them the Skippa email that got you involved in the initial purchase.

My claim is currently sitting at this;

The seller has been asked to respond by 18 Oct 2015. Once we receive the information, we'll continue our review of this case.

*edit* you can still see a physical ad for Skippa here ; http://skippa.tv
I've taken some screenshots in case I need to prove the unit as a physical thing.
I suggest you do the same and send the screenshots to PayPal.

You're a gem Dave.
I didn't receive my Skippa, but to see you still actively involved in solutions for those who did get a Skippa, despite your looming unemployment, is pretty amazing.
Good luck in the future. Someone's going to get a very loyal, smart employee.
Hope they realise it, and reward you accordingly.

So Gizmodo is reporting that Ice TV is now officially dead and buried. Can anyone confirm that?

I posted this link; http://forum.icetv.com.au/iceforum/general-discussions/1/thanks-and-farwell/4648/;topicseen
On this page yesterday.
Ice TV is gone because some of the staff, who obviously are the tech geniuses, have rightly got jobs elsewhere,
Can't blame them for that.

http://forum.icetv.com.au/iceforum/general-discussions/1/thanks-and-farwell/4648/;topicseen

The Skippa unfulfilled orders have been told the order will never be fulfilled. Even if a new owner for the business is found.

Actually,I've been wondering why that is.  If someone buys the business, surely Altech would be happy to get rid of their stock of Skippa?

As I understand it the Skippas are no longer the property of the purchasers.
They are the property of the manufacturer. And as the manufacturer is apparently in receivership then no one actually owns them.
If they are ever returned to the market it will be as a brand new unit that you would have to pay for......again!
If the Skippas ever came to market I certainly would not buy one. They are dependant upon the IceTV EPG and even if that discontinued and a s/w update changed that dependency, the unit then becomes nothing more than a standard PVR.
And there are plenty of those around with better warranty and service backup that the Skippa will ever have.

The IceTV service is still being fulfilled, so you cannot be an unsecured creditor until the service stops.
The Skippa unfulfilled orders have been told the order will never be fulfilled. Even if a new owner for the business is found.
So they are unsecured creditors already.

[This may be of interest to a few (many...). Taken from the Beyonwiz Forum;]

This may be of interest to a few (many...).  Taken from the Beyonwiz Forum;
"Offer: Purchase a Beyonwiz T2 - Triple Tuner PVR (2 fixed + 1 x USB Tuner) use the coupon code 100off and get $100 off the price + Free Shipping
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We have stock ready and available for immediate shipping from our Sydney warehouse.
How to claim:
* Pick from the available models here: https://beyonwiz.com.au/product-category/t2/ (remember not available with T2 Barebone)
* Once you have added the item to your cart go into your Shopping Cart" befor you check out and enter the coupon code and hit apply
* You should then see the $100 has been deducted and a Free shipping option has appeared, you can now checkout.

Feel free to share this offer with your family and friends and it is ok to mention it in the relevant forums if you wish."

So which is the best model?
In terms of reliability.

A quick point for clarification, if anyone can help.
According to the liquidators we have until the 16th of October to sign up as an unsecured creditor.
Paypal state that you cannot run a dispute case with them and, in their example, a credit card company concurrently.
That's fair, you shouldn't try to double dip.
So how long will it take Paypal to decide if they will refund us?
Because I believe signing up to the liquidator would be attempting to double dip. Even though any chance of a return from the liquidator will be very small.
The clock is ticking as far as one option is concerned.

The last line of the article(s) says it all.

The Skippa can not extract the television guide from the broadcast signal and is completely dependent on the IceTV guide, rendering it useless should the company fold

Even if we get the unit, and those who already have a unit, they are nothing but an electronic brick.
A very expensive brick, but a brick any way you look at it.

I've also lodged a dispute with PayPal and await there responses,  but I'm not holding my breath

Thanks. I have also opened a dispute with PayPal.
I just wished I had taken the offer of a refund a month or so ago when I complained about the late delivery of the unit.