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Dear EPG Gnomes

Tonight's episode 14/Dec/2017 @ 8.00PM WAS NOT A REPEAT, but was marked as a repeat by IceTV !

I would have missed it except I knew not to trust the IceGuide, and so I manually told EyeTV to record it.

Please triple check your data  !
I had the IceTV EPG set to record both (SBS VICELAND) Full Frontal With Samantha Bee and (ABC) The Checkout, but ended up with two recordings of The Checkout instead. Why, oh why did this happen ?

Even more weirdly, in EyeTV, the program info for the Full Frontal ep appears to show correctly. Right program info/channel/start time, but EyeTV recorded the signal from ABC instead of SBS VICELAND


VERY ANNOYED (to put it politely)  >:(

EyeTV / Re: EPG retrieval frequency
February 04, 2017, 09:59:38 PM
Quote from: Dave at IceTV on February 04, 2017, 09:51:24 PM
Hi furbies,

I hope you are monitoring this thread of yours.

I have been testing the 30 minute version of your EyeTV EPG Updater V3 and the update intervals seem quite random. Worst case was a 2 hour interval and best cases were 31 minutes and 43 minutes.

  • When you were testing it did you try increasing the delays from 1 to 2? (I assume "delay 1" is 1 second)
  • Did you try using fixed schedules? Maybe on the hour and half hour instead of waiting 30 minutes from the last update.


The script works on elapsed time since start.

If you're looking in the EyeTV preferences / Guide window where EyeTV indicates when it last updated, that time/date doesn't always correctly show when it actually last updated. I suspect there's a a UI update bug involved.  A way to confirm EyeTV is updating I found is to leave the Preferences / Guide window open.

Dave check my user account "furbies" and it should show how often my IceTV is updating via my AppleScript "widget". I'm running the 2 hour update variant.


Quote from: Tiphanee on December 27, 2016, 07:36:21 PM
Hi furbies -

Many thanks for your post and sorry that you nearly missed the recording of Person of Interest as it was incorrectly marked as a repeat. I've checked the database and you're right.  It appears that half the country was programmed with the correct episode as a first run and the other half was programmed with last week's episode and marked as a repeat.

It was an oversight on our part as the guide was checked twice yesterday for schedule and time changes and should have been picked up at one of those checks.

Once again, sorry for the error and I hope you enjoy the rest of the holiday season,



Please inform the "guide" elves that this is getting to be a regular occurrence, and is starting to really be a concern !
Here's a screen grab I did:
Why is tonite's episode of Person Of Interest marked as a repeat when it's NOT and it's the last episode !

Thank the deities I manually decided to record the episode !
When are we going to get a version of the IceTV iOS app which is designed for the iPad/iPad mini ?

Using the current release of the IceTV iOS app on an iPad mini is a terrible waste of screen real estate
Will IceTV send out an email flagging that IceTV has updated the LCN to Channel names so we can go into our IceTV (website) preferences and make sure our "Channel on IceTV website > Send to TV Recorder as LCN" for NSW Wollongong is correct ?

At the moment, 1:23am, 1 July, the channel names > LCN is incorrect  :(

I had to get EyeTV on my Mac to update the channels cause I lost a couple of channels at midnight when the switchover took place.
EyeTV / Re: EPG retrieval frequency
June 19, 2016, 02:27:53 PM
If folks are downloading and using, it if you'd post a note here that it's of use ? (feedback)  ;D
EyeTV / Re: EPG retrieval frequency
April 19, 2016, 11:53:37 PM
Hi All

I've put together a couple of different versions of the EPG Updater Applet.

EyeTV EPG 4hr Updater App
EyeTV EPG 3hr Updater App
EyeTV EPG 2hr Updater App
EyeTV EPG 60min Updater App
EyeTV EPG 30min Updater App

So a user can choose how often they want EyeTV to get told to update the EPG.
I've also updated the Read Me file as well to reflect that there's a couple of versions in the ZIP/Download.

I hope this offering is of some use to my fellow EyeTV & IceTV users


EyeTV / Re: EPG retrieval frequency
April 19, 2016, 10:44:34 PM
Quote from: Dave at IceTV on April 19, 2016, 10:38:38 PM
EyeTV updated at 7:41pm and 9:41pm.

It is updating every 2 hours and 40 seconds (it probably takes 40 seconds complete). It hasn't skipped an update all day.

21:41 - last update as of 22:36

Thanks Dave @ IceTV

Seems that EyeTV's Preferences>Guide Pane isn't always reflecting that an update has been requested and processed.
(Sounds like there's a bug in the Guide Pane, in that it doesn't always reflect when an update was performed)

Well, on the upside, it seems that my Applet is doing what it's supposed to....


EyeTV / Re: EPG retrieval frequency
April 19, 2016, 10:05:33 PM
A question for Dave @ IceTV

I don't know if you can, but could you check the IceTV logs and see if my account accessed the IceTV guide update "system" at about 9:40pm tonight (19 April) ?

I noticed that my EPG updater AppleScript/App said it told EyeTV to update its EPG, but EyeTV said it had last updated the EPG at 7:41pm


EyeTV / Re: EPG retrieval frequency
April 19, 2016, 01:17:44 PM
Quote from: Dave at IceTV on April 19, 2016, 12:17:32 PM
Quote from: furbies on April 18, 2016, 07:42:49 PM
Well, I don't know what's happening, but thus far, the EPG Updater I've concocted is 'encouraging' EyeTV to update every two hours most of the time.
EyeTV occasionally 'ignores' the message to update the EPG, but so far it only ignores one update, but then does 'obey' the next several update messages, before again wilfully ignoring an update message.

Go figure   >:(

(ps: as long as EyeTV obeys more EPG update messages than it ignores, I think I can live with it)

Looking at the log in your account I can see EyeTV is mostly updating every 2 hours. But sometimes it updated either 1, 3 or 4 hours after the previous update. It's definitely a lot better than the default once or twice per day.

There are a few occasions where it updated between 2 to 15 minutes after the last update. I assume you were playing around with it at those times.


Yeah, the updates that happened 10 minutes apart (or so) was when I was messing about with the AppleScript.
Sometimes if the Mac has been asleep for a hour or three, then there'll be a gap in the fetch(ings). But mostly the AppleScript has improved things.

I am going to see if I can't improve things because EyeTV has ignored "get EPG updates" overnight (between 5:30am and 11:30am (this morning). and I don't know why.


EyeTV / Re: EPG retrieval frequency
April 18, 2016, 08:57:42 PM
I've deleted the attachment on this post as there's an updated version a few posts further down!


Here's the script/app and a read me.

Obviously, you'll need EyeTV and a Mac, and an IceTv subscription ! ;D

The app sends an update epg message to EyeTV. That's all. Nothing else.
EyeTV is then responsible for actually getting the EPG data from IceTV.

If the app works for you, then yippee, but if it doesn't then I'm sorry  :-[

(I've edited/updated the ReadMe File for more clarity)



@Chairman, might you make this post a Sticky ? So its at the top of the topic ?
`twould make it easier for folks to see the downloadable, if there are any more posts ?
EyeTV / Re: EPG retrieval frequency
April 18, 2016, 08:02:41 PM
Quote from: Chairman on April 18, 2016, 07:53:53 PM
Hi furbies, I really appreciate your work to fix the EPG updates. Eyetv has been sold to the company that did Elgato's eyetv manufacturing - Geniatech. The Eyetv business remains in Germany. I'm in negotiations with them right now to get IceTV properly integrated and EPG updates back to at least every 15min (so away from home settings can work asap). But our business negotiations and their software dev may well take some months to filter through so any work you are doing right now is very helpful to bridge the gap.

All the best,

Colin O'Brien


Good luck. We can only hope the 'new' owners are more responsive than the original creators !