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IceTV Guide for IceTV enabled PVRs => Topfield => Topic started by: recur on October 02, 2005, 10:17:21 AM

Title: All EPG items 2 minutes late
Post by: recur on October 02, 2005, 10:17:21 AM
I seem to have a strange situation on my Masterpiece PVR in that all of the items in the IceTV EPG are all scheduled 2 minutes later than the time they should be.

Eg shows scheduled for 8pm - 8:30pm are set up to start at 8:02pm and finish at 8:02pm.

This is the same across all channels.

I have updated the EPG and also restarted the PVR, all to no avail.

Any ideas / reasons as to why this may be the case?
Title: Re: All EPG items 2 minutes late
Post by: peteru on October 02, 2005, 10:34:32 PM
It sounds like your Masterpiece PVR is set to "Manual", rather than "Automatic" time.
Title: Re: All EPG items 2 minutes late
Post by: recur on October 03, 2005, 08:36:06 AM
Thank you, all sorted.
Title: Re: All EPG items 2 minutes late
Post by: merceroz on November 29, 2005, 09:23:54 PM
I too have the same issue.  But by 1 minute.  I too have the time set to manual.  I've done this because the time broadcast by the networks has the habit of being all over the place - which isn't good for recording.

So why is this an issue?  Why can't I use manual time and display the correct time?

Thanks

Gareth
Title: Re: All EPG items 2 minutes late
Post by: Daniel Hall at IceTV on November 29, 2005, 10:31:19 PM
QuoteI too have the same issue.  But by 1 minute.  I too have the time set to manual.  I've done this because the time broadcast by the networks has the habit of being all over the place - which isn't good for recording.

So why is this an issue?  Why can't I use manual time and display the correct time?

Thanks

Gareth

The guide data gets loaded into the Topfield as UTC and then has the timezone information attached. In manual mode the Topfield does not have an option to set the UTC offset and the way it calculates this is by calculating the time difference between the time that is set and the time that is being sent out through the broadcast.

This means that if the time is out then this is taken into affect. In your case at the moment it means that the time difference between the time on the Topfield is 11 hours and 1 minute (for Sydney, which is currently at +10 UTC) instead of the 11 hours that would make it correct.

Hope this clears it up a bit.
Title: Re: All EPG items 2 minutes late
Post by: tonymy01 on November 29, 2005, 11:42:27 PM
I notified Jai of this problem months ago, and he didn't seem to think it was one... grrr.

There are a couple of simple solutions to this:
1. don't base *anything* on the broadcaster time, thus have a manual GMT offset to setup for manual time.
2. GMT offsets world wide are, what, 30min resolution (maybe 15min?) so once the Toppy does the maths to calculate the offset, round to the nearest 15mins.

These are both very easy to implement, if only we had real communications to the Koreans rather than the Topfield Australia brick wall, where only the tiniest tid-bits of our complaints get through to the Koreans.
Heck, who here has tested the 15 Nov 2005 f/w?   It doesn't contain *any* of the fixes in it that the Brits got with their October f/w (such as GMT offset setting, auto-daylight savings etc etc).
Grr.....   Topfield-Australia, pick up your game.
Sorry for the rant but I spent about 3hours writing up what I thought were the important bugs that Topfield should sort out in about May or June this year, and not one of them have been seen to.
Regards
Title: Re: All EPG items 2 minutes late
Post by: dJOS on November 30, 2005, 05:54:54 PM
After Comments like that im not touching the Nov15 FW!  >:(
Title: Re: All EPG items 2 minutes late
Post by: tonymy01 on December 01, 2005, 05:41:02 PM
There must be 2 versions of Nov15 f/w, because I still experienced "check your reservation", where as others are claiming this is fixed with the beta on Topfields site.
You should at least try it, it isn't any worse than the July f/w....
Title: Re: All EPG items 2 minutes late
Post by: dJOS on December 01, 2005, 10:21:02 PM
QuoteThere must be 2 versions of Nov15 f/w, because I still experienced "check your reservation", where as others are claiming this is fixed with the beta on Topfields site.
You should at least try it, it isn't any worse than the July f/w....

Hmm, tempting - I do have a copy so I might.  :-/
Title: Re: All EPG items 2 minutes late
Post by: merceroz on December 02, 2005, 03:26:00 PM
Quote

The guide data gets loaded into the Topfield as UTC and then has the timezone information attached. In manual mode the Topfield does not have an option to set the UTC offset and the way it calculates this is by calculating the time difference between the time that is set and the time that is being sent out through the broadcast.

This means that if the time is out then this is taken into affect. In your case at the moment it means that the time difference between the time on the Topfield is 11 hours and 1 minute (for Sydney, which is currently at +10 UTC) instead of the 11 hours that would make it correct.

Hope this clears it up a bit.

Thanks that makes sense.