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Title: Repeats and double ups
Post by: csutak40 on January 24, 2021, 01:42:32 PM
I thought I'd list mine, as everyone else is

Healthy Homes TV 10 Bold, 3:30pm, Sun, 24 Jan 2021, 30 minutes
  I watched this show yesterday, and they said it was the last of the series, so presumably, this one is a repeat




The Project 10 HD, 11:30pm, Mon, 25 Jan 202160 minutes (end the rest of the week)
The Late Late Show With James Corden 10 Shake, 4:05am, Wed, 27 Jan 2021, (this is on about midnight, so this is a repeat - same on Thursday)




The Ellen DeGeneres Show 9Gem, 10:30am, Thu, 28 Jan 2021 (This is on every day, I have deleted the ones from earlier)
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: csutak40 on January 25, 2021, 06:41:10 PM
Here is the list of repeats I found as of this evening.  (Law & Order has been fixed)
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: grumpy_geoff on January 25, 2021, 09:37:05 PM
Quote from: csutak40 on January 24, 2021, 01:42:32 PM
I thought I'd list mine, as everyone else is
...

Hi Judy,


Re. your screenshots of "double ups".
On your V2, do you have two x timers set for "Grand Designs"?  If so, both set for 19:42 start (minus your pre-padding) or some other start time,
The Wiz won't allow a timer for the same start time/service, at least I I don't believe, so one should be different (likely by 5 mins).
Or is one set for each of LCN 2 and 21 (the two ABC TV services)


Same for "Qi" 21:28?


Then we get to Adam Hills, where I can see one is set for the one of the SD services and one for the HD service (ABC TV and ABC TV HD respectively).  Again, actually two timers on the V2?
A while ago I removed the simulcasts from my IceTV account, so that can't happen to me. I'm not convinced the IceTV scheduler is good enough to track the timers, their services, and changes and match them up.
There's been posts on the forum that tend to suggest that sometimes it doesn't get it right.
I know I'm not alone in stripping back the enabled services in one's account.



You can open http://beyonwizv2/api/timerlist in a browser [size=78%]and grab these 6 entries for each relevant timer -[/size]


   "servicename": "10 HD",
   "realend": "25.01.2021 21:54",
   "name": "I'm A Celebrity... Get Me Out Of Here",
   "realbegin": "25.01.2021 19:25",
   "eit": 64120,
   "serviceref": "1:0:19:684:607:1014:EEEE0000:0:0:0:",


Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: csutak40 on January 25, 2021, 10:19:31 PM
Quote from: grumpy_geoff on January 25, 2021, 09:37:05 PM

Re. your screenshots of "double ups".
On your V2, do you have two x timers set for "Grand Designs"?  If so, both set for 19:42 start (minus your pre-padding) or some other start time,
The Wiz won't allow a timer for the same start time/service, at least I I don't believe, so one should be different (likely by 5 mins).
Or is one set for each of LCN 2 and 21 (the two ABC TV services)
Grand Designs has been on, so now that i've deleted it, I don't remember exactly what the times were

Quote from: grumpy_geoff on January 25, 2021, 09:37:05 PM
Same for "Qi" 21:28?
With QI two are listed on IceTV's website but only one timer is scheduled.  However, I don't remember if I'd deleted one or one one scheduled.  On Ice TV., they seem identical
Quote from: grumpy_geoff on January 25, 2021, 09:37:05 PM

Then we get to Adam Hills, where I can see one is set for the one of the SD services and one for the HD service (ABC TV and ABC TV HD respectively).  Again, actually two timers on the V2?
Again, only one (well, there are more on various days, but that is another matter) but, again, I don't remember if i'd deleted one, or only one got scheduled.  I am nearly sure that, in cases like these, both are scheduled to record
I did a lot of deleting in the last few days
Quote from: grumpy_geoff on January 25, 2021, 09:37:05 PM
A while ago I removed the simulcasts from my IceTV account, so that can't happen to me. I'm not convinced the IceTV scheduler is good enough to track the timers, their services, and changes and match them up.
There's been posts on the forum that tend to suggest that sometimes it doesn't get it right.
I know I'm not alone in stripping back the enabled services in one's account.



You can open http://beyonwizv2/api/timerlist in a browser [size=78%]and grab these 6 entries for each relevant timer -[/size]


   "servicename": "10 HD",
   "realend": "25.01.2021 21:54",
   "name": "I'm A Celebrity... Get Me Out Of Here",
   "realbegin": "25.01.2021 19:25",
   "eit": 64120,
   "serviceref": "1:0:19:684:607:1014:EEEE0000:0:0:0:",

I was answering each question, instead of reading to the end  :P  Anyway, managed to open the right browser page, but not technical enough to figure out how to grab the ones you need, so sorry, have to give you the whole lot
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: grumpy_geoff on January 25, 2021, 11:06:13 PM
Quote from: csutak40 on January 25, 2021, 10:19:31 PM
I was answering each question, instead of reading to the end  :P  Anyway, managed to open the right browser page, but not technical enough to figure out how to grab the ones you need, so sorry, have to give you the whole lot

The duplicates are there in that timer list, all without descriptions and the duplicates didn't fire - perhaps you disabled them instead if deleting?


Unfortunately, that timer list doesn't know anything about IceTV so it doesn't include the Ice TimerID field.
Can you use File Commander (MENU>>Sources / Files) to navigate through Internal Flash>>etc>>enigma2 and copy the "timers.xml" file from the V2 either to your NAS, or to one of the "Movie" shares on the MicroSD card or USB drive, and then you can retrieve it from there using Windows File Explorer?
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: csutak40 on January 26, 2021, 12:38:24 AM
Got it!
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: grumpy_geoff on January 26, 2021, 01:13:45 AM
Quote from: csutak40 on January 26, 2021, 12:38:24 AM
Got it!
I've got it now too - and I bet you thought you couldn't achieve that, hey?
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: grumpy_geoff on January 26, 2021, 01:58:04 AM

"Grand Designs: House Of The Year: Experimental", future timers.
Start Sun Jan 31 19:34:00 -
<timer begin="1612082040" end="1612086600" serviceref="1:0:1:231:231:1010:EEEE0000:0:0:0:" repeated="0" rename_repeat="1" name="Grand Designs: House Of The Year: Experimental" description="Experimental - Down To Earth" afterevent="auto" eit="478" tags="" disabled="0" justplay="0" always_zap="0" descramble="1" record_ecm="0" isAutoTimer="0" ice_timer_id="16673459435401946891">


[size=78%]Start Sun Jan 31 19:36:00 -[/size]
<timer begin="1612082160" end="1612086600" serviceref="1:0:19:235:231:1010:EEEE0000:0:0:0:" repeated="0" rename_repeat="1" name="Grand Designs: House Of The Year: Experimental" description="Experimental - Down To Earth" afterevent="auto" eit="3180" tags="" disabled="0" justplay="0" always_zap="0" descramble="1" record_ecm="0" isAutoTimer="0" ice_timer_id="16672642781478678369">


[/size][size=78%]Start time differs by 2 minutes, end time is the same.  Each is for a different service, different EPG event.  Both have different Ice timer IDs.[/size]
That's a bug for sure, I'd say at the IceTV end.


[/size]"Grand Designs", previous timers:
Start Sun Jan 24 19:36:00 -
<timer begin="1611477360" end="1611481800" serviceref="1:0:1:231:231:1010:EEEE0000:0:0:0:" repeated="0" rename_repeat="1" name="Grand Designs: House Of The Year: Experimental" description="" afterevent="auto" eit="476" tags="" disabled="0" justplay="0" always_zap="0" descramble="1" record_ecm="0" isAutoTimer="0" ice_timer_id="16673461900964833633">


[/size][size=78%]Start Sun Jan 24 19:34:00 -[/size]
<timer begin="1611477240" end="1611481800" serviceref="1:0:1:231:231:1010:EEEE0000:0:0:0:" repeated="0" rename_repeat="1" name="Grand Designs: House Of The Year: Experimental" description="" afterevent="auto" eit="476" tags="" disabled="0" justplay="0" always_zap="0" descramble="1" record_ecm="0" isAutoTimer="0" ice_timer_id="16673459435401946890">


[/size][size=78%]Start same as above (19:34) -[/size]
<timer begin="1611477240" end="1611481800" serviceref="1:0:1:231:231:1010:EEEE0000:0:0:0:" repeated="0" rename_repeat="1" name="Grand Designs: House Of The Year" description="Houses that Fit into their Surroundings" afterevent="auto" eit="476" tags="" disabled="0" justplay="0" always_zap="0" descramble="1" record_ecm="0" isAutoTimer="0" ice_timer_id="16671520245017746670">
<log code="5" time="1611477220">activating state 1</log>
<log code="0" time="1611477220">Found enough free space to record</log>
<log code="0" time="1611477220">Filename calculated as: &apos;/media/usb/movie/20210124 1934 - ABC TV - Grand Designs_ House Of The Year&apos;</log>
<log code="6" time="1611477220">prepare ok, waiting for begin</log>
<log code="5" time="1611477240">activating state 2</log>
<log code="11" time="1611477240">start recording from: Tuner A</log>
<log code="5" time="1611481800">activating state 3</log>
<log code="12" time="1611481800">stop recording from: Tuner A</log>
</timer>


[/size][size=78%]Only the last listed timer fired/recorded.  All 3 are for the same EPG event on the same service.  Only the last had a subtitle/short description.  End time was the same for all.  All had different Ice timer IDs.  Perhaps you disabled the first two.[/size]
Bug I reckon (no "forget" issued by the IceTV scheduling server).




I can only see 1 timer for "Qi", set for Wed Jan 27 21:19.




"Adam Hills: The Last Leg" are set for different days, only 1 timer for each -
Start Tue Jan 26 20:39 -
<timer begin="1611653940" end="1611658200" serviceref="1:0:1:232:231:1010:EEEE0000:0:0:0:" repeated="0" rename_repeat="1" name="Adam Hills: The Last Leg" description="Tom Davis And Maisie Adams" afterevent="auto" eit="27981" tags="" disabled="0" justplay="0" always_zap="0" descramble="1" record_ecm="0" isAutoTimer="0" ice_timer_id="16672890162317130601">


[/size][size=78%]Start Wed Jan 27 21:53 -[/size]

<timer begin="1611744780" end="1611748860" serviceref="1:0:19:235:231:1010:EEEE0000:0:0:0:" repeated="0" rename_repeat="1" name="Adam Hills: The Last Leg" description="Tom Davis And Maisie Adams" afterevent="auto" eit="2882" tags="" disabled="0" justplay="0" always_zap="0" descramble="1" record_ecm="0" isAutoTimer="0" ice_timer_id="16673460761707940049">
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: grumpy_geoff on January 26, 2021, 02:00:14 AM
Weird formatting entered by the forum software - I never entered the "size=" markup above
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: prl on January 26, 2021, 09:17:52 AM
Quote from: grumpy_geoff on January 26, 2021, 01:58:04 AM
All 3 are for the same EPG event on the same service.  Only the last had a subtitle/short description.  End time was the same for all.  All had different Ice timer IDs.  Perhaps you disabled the first two.
Bug I reckon (no "forget" issued by the IceTV scheduling server).

If IceTV wants to change an existing timer, all it needs to do are to re-send the timer with the details altered and the same timer id. It can do the same by doing a "forget" then a new timer id, but that isn't necessary.

I have some logs of a doubled timer that I can give to Daniel Hall when he has some time, after the database update is done.
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: csutak40 on January 26, 2021, 01:43:03 PM
Thank you both.
I will wait and see what happens.   The repeats haven't disappeared after Monday, I presume they won't disappear today, so see what happens tomorrow.  I won't delete anything else, until after it recorded.  Have plenty of room now, so don't have to worry about running out of room
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: grumpy_geoff on January 26, 2021, 02:37:27 PM
Quote from: csutak40 on January 26, 2021, 01:43:03 PM
I won't delete anything else, until after it recorded.  Have plenty of room now, so don't have to worry about running out of room

For any duplicates/double ups, you could disable the incorrect timer(s).  Check the IceTV guide for the program event start time, then identify the correct timer based on your pre-padding setting
e.g.  Grand Designs, start 19:42, less (e.g.) 6 mins pre-padding -> timer start of 19:36, so disable the other timer of 19:34.


For any repeats that were incorrectly scheduled, you can also disable those timers too.
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: csutak40 on January 26, 2021, 04:03:00 PM
LOL  I apparently disabled the wrong one for Graham Norton.  It was out by a mile, actually missed the last few minutes of the program (and I have 20 minutes padding) (and a repeat followed straight after, which I have also deleted)  ;D
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: Viperdude on January 27, 2021, 11:41:45 PM
Battlebots this week are apparently all repeats.

NCIS  (10 Bold) Monday 1 Feb, 7:30pm is the repeat of s3,ep11 called "Model Behavior" (are we correcting the spelling in Aus?)
NCIS  (10 HD)   Tuesday 2 Feb, 9pm is s18,ep4 called "Sunburn".
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: Lisa on January 28, 2021, 09:32:13 AM
Hi There,

thankyou for your emiail....NCIS is all fixed with Aussie spelling of course  :) and new ep entered for 2Feb.
Will make sure Battlebots has the R flag in place!

cheers,  Lisa
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: BazzaG on January 28, 2021, 10:29:14 AM
I'm getting repeated recordings for Ready, Steady, Wiggle!:

This has happened a number of times for Ready, Steady, Wiggle! and Doctor Who (I missed 1 & the show was recorded twice on my U4).

The starting/ending time are 1 min different.

Oops, forgot to mention the above is for Wednesday 3rd of February.
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: csutak40 on February 08, 2021, 12:57:11 AM
I just noticed something weird (or at least, I don't understand)
Grand Designs, House of the year, was scheduled twice.  I didn't get around deleting one of them, but the weird thing is, only one of them recorded
Also, FWIW one had no description at all, the other one did.  The one that recorded has the description.
I have no idea how that is possible
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: aeb001 on February 08, 2021, 06:05:03 PM
Restoration Workshop - 7mate HD, 3:00pm, Tue, 9 Feb 2021, 60 minutes < tiphanee this ones a repeat. Premieres are on monday nights
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: csutak40 on February 08, 2021, 11:12:49 PM
Michael Mosley On Cosmetic Treatments is scheduled twice as well (SD and HD)
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: csutak40 on February 08, 2021, 11:16:38 PM
Oh and the Project often repeats late at night (it is being  recorded as we speak) even though it is on at 6.30 pm and the later version is a repeat.
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: IanL-S on February 09, 2021, 03:53:38 PM
have an example of double-up on both my 7100+ for Jack Irish on 12 February. No double-up on the U4. In each case all have the same commencement time - did not check the run time.
Ian

This could be a different issue as only one is shown as scheduled; others have a problem.
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: prl on February 09, 2021, 04:02:27 PM
What are the error messages on the ones with the warning symbols?
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: IanL-S on February 09, 2021, 04:48:46 PM
Hi Peter, error message is (at least for one instance):
"There was an error scheduling this show to device 7100+ 1.TASK_MSG_INVALID_SERVICE."
That would be consistent with the emails advising problem with the timers.

Would I be correct in assuming that the timer was downloaded before the relevant EPG data had been downloaded? Something I suspect happens regularly with my Toppys.

Ian
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: prl on February 09, 2021, 05:36:23 PM
Quote from: IanL-S on February 09, 2021, 04:48:46 PM
Hi Peter, error message is (at least for one instance):
"There was an error scheduling this show to device 7100+ 1.TASK_MSG_INVALID_SERVICE."
That would be consistent with the emails advising problem with the timers.

Would I be correct in assuming that the timer was downloaded before the relevant EPG data had been downloaded? Something I suspect happens regularly with my Toppys.

Ian


I don't know anything about IceTV on the Topfields (?), but my guess from the name of the error, is that a timer has been sent for a channel that's either not in the channel list sent to the PVR by IceTV, or not in your scanned channel list on the PVR. It might be that your IceTV region doesn't match your actual region, or that you have some channels in the region enabled in IceTV that haven't been scanned by the PVR (e.g. their transmitter is too far away). The latter is more of an issue for regional areas.

For the basics, setting a timer doesn't need to consult the EPG. On Beyonwizes, it does, in order to retrieve a description (e.g. episode name) for the timer. The timer sent from IceTV contains the channel, start time, duration and title (name of series) and the action being performed on the timer (record, forget) and some state information. A "record" timer is used both to set new timers and update existing ones.

I'm not sure whether the Topfield accesses the EPG to set a description in the timer (or even if it has one).
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: IanL-S on February 09, 2021, 05:53:36 PM
Peter, checked my region settings and it is correct; ABVTV HD is enabled, but ABC TV (SD) is not enabled. I have deleted SD services for which there is a corresponding SD service both in IceTV settings and on the Toppys.

The Toppys use an old IcedTV EPG API, not the one used by the Beyonwiz T, U and V series.
The way Toppys (other than the 5300) works is that (as I understand it) only time informtion (not the program details) is sent to the Toppy. The Toppy then picks up the program information from the EPG when the program records. This can result in no program information for reordings if the EPG is blank for one reason or another. Timer information and EPG data are sent separately to the Toppy. After the initial download of timers and EPG the EPG and Timer informaiton are downloaded at 30 minute intervals, with a 15 minute offset between the EPG and Timer downloads.

Ian
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: prl on February 09, 2021, 06:06:05 PM
Quote from: IanL-S on February 09, 2021, 05:53:36 PM
The Toppys use an old IcedTV EPG API, not the one used by the Beyonwiz T, U and V series.

Quite right. I'd forgotten that the Topfields use the old API. It still sounds like a problem with mapping the IceTV channels to the corresponding channels on the Topfield. Daniel Hall is probably the only one who can winkle that one out.
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: csutak40 on February 11, 2021, 08:22:34 AM
The second airing of the Project on 10  (at around 10.30, 11pm) is still not shown as a repeat
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: grumpy_geoff on February 11, 2021, 03:35:35 PM
The Bay, 7flix, Saturday, Perth (and some others)
These are repeats of the premieres of Wednesday evening, but aren't marked as repeats.
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: prl on February 11, 2021, 05:08:49 PM
Busted In Bangkok 'Episode 3', Prime7 HD, 9:45pm, Thu, 11 Feb (tonight) is marked as first run, but I'm pretty sure it's a repeat. The first two episodes weren't recorded by my "first runs" series recording for Busted in Bangkok.
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: prl on February 11, 2021, 06:04:11 PM
Silent Witness 'First Casualty - Part 2', 9Gem, 10:50pm, Wed, 17 Feb is S14E06, first released in 2011, is almost certainly a repeat and my "first runs" series recording didn't record Part 1, or any other episodes from this series.

Silent Witness 'Deadhead - Part One', ABC TV HD, 9:31pm, Sun, 14 Feb (S23E01) is a first run (released 2020).
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: Tiphanee on February 11, 2021, 06:36:28 PM
Busted in Bangkok has now been fixed for tonight. You should see the change reflected shortly.

Have also fixed Silent Witness on 9Gem, and that will come through soon.

Cheers,

Tiphanee

Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: prl on February 11, 2021, 06:38:07 PM
Thanks, Tiphanne. Neither has worked its way through yet, but I'll let you know when they have.
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: prl on February 11, 2021, 08:44:10 PM
Hi Tiphanee. Your fixes for the Silent Witness and Busted in Bangkok repeats have filtered through for me niw.

Thanks again.
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: BazzaG on February 12, 2021, 07:19:25 PM
I think this thread has morphed into a constantly growing thread about TV shows that have incorrect NEW / REPEAT status from the duplicates problem that had been reported earlier.

Well, I'll add to that ever growing list:

"Why Are You Like This"

Tuesday February 16th - TVPLus

Episode One: Marked as a REPEAT
Episode Two: Marked as NEW

Wednesday February 17th - ABC SD/HD

Episode One: Marked as NEW
Episode Two: Marked as NEW

Obviously Episode 1 on Tuesday night should be NEW & the 2 episodes on Wednesday should be REPEATs.

In this case, IceTV *matches* whats shown on the ABC EPG ... perhaps someone at IceTV should contact the ABC and ask 'em to get their act together.

Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: GaiO IceTV on February 13, 2021, 08:04:59 AM
Hi BazzaG,
I've had a look at this one this morning and not sure why ABC have marked as they have.  I have corrected repeat flags and this should flow through shortly for 16th, 17th.  Also Ep 3 scheduled 23 and 24 same issue now corrected.  Unfortunately, contacting ABC seems to fall on very deaf ears!
Have a good day
Cheers Gai
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: aeb001 on February 13, 2021, 08:37:47 AM
The Children's Hospital - 'Series 2, Episode 1' - 10 HD, 11:00pm, Sat, 13 Feb 2021, 30 minutes - this should be marked repeat as it aired in december @tiphanee
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: csutak40 on February 14, 2021, 07:56:04 AM
Quote from: grumpy_geoff on January 26, 2021, 01:58:04 AM

"Adam Hills: The Last Leg" are set for different days, only 1 timer for each -

I know that we have been told that just because our posts of double ups/repeats aren't acknowledged they are noted.
I am not convinced.  There are quite a few shows that gets repeated at least twice a week and that we have mentioned here at least once, but it has never been corrected
Adam Hills is one of those.  It is scheduled to record both on Tuesday and Wednesday, Wednesday being a repeat.
Last week  Hughesy we have a problem got repeated as well
I just noticed as well (as the guests are shown this time) that The Late Show with James Corden is scheduled Tuesday night then Wednesday  Morning (4 hours later)  Oh, and the same is true the next day and possibly Friday (it only has a generic description for Friday)

So, do you still want us to let you know of repeats, or is it a waste of time?
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: MD on February 14, 2021, 08:34:47 AM
It is not a waste of time and we appreciate it.

We are working through edge case bugs such as these but it is a time consuming process.

Unfortunately, through hundreds of correct TV shows over every region and channel in Australia, 24/7 every day, we only get caught out by our few errors.  I'm afraid when everything is working perfectly we are almost forgotten but we are certainly remembered for our mistakes!!
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: GaiO IceTV on February 14, 2021, 08:49:51 AM
Hi Judy,
Thanks for your note. I'm following up on the ABC one specifically, Adam Hills: the Last Leg is set correctly in our guide as a new episode on Tuesday 16th on ABC Plus and is repeated on ABCTV on Wednesday 17th. If you are experiencing some other issue with this programme it is not guide related.
Cheers Gai
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: csutak40 on February 14, 2021, 09:10:49 PM
Quote from: GaiO IceTV on February 14, 2021, 08:49:51 AM
Hi Judy,
Thanks for your note. I'm following up on the ABC one specifically, Adam Hills: the Last Leg is set correctly in our guide as a new episode on Tuesday 16th on ABC Plus and is repeated on ABCTV on Wednesday 17th. If you are experiencing some other issue with this programme it is not guide related.
Cheers Gai
Well, I have it set as First Run Only.  I don't understand the workings of things enough to understand what causes what, but having now checked on the web page, it is not marked as set to record, but it is on the V2
Incidentally, I have noticed earlier that when I cancel something on the Web, it doesn't always delete it off the V2, so that may be what's happening, but no idea how to fix it
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: prl on February 15, 2021, 12:00:32 PM
There was a user on the Beyonwiz forum recently asking (https://www.beyonwiz.com.au/forum/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=14615) about how to do a bulk time delete on the Beyonwiz side, because they'd ended up with a fairly large number of timers set by IceTV on the Beyonwiz, but apparently not deleted when the episode states were changed from first run to repeat.

Grampus was also asking about some odd, but apparently innocuous, error messages happening in IceTV updates recently. I understand that Daniel Hall has already looked into those.
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: aeb001 on February 15, 2021, 11:34:54 PM
Quote from: csutak40 on February 14, 2021, 09:10:49 PM
Well, I have it set as First Run Only.  I don't understand the workings of things enough to understand what causes what, but having now checked on the web page, it is not marked as set to record, but it is on the V2
Incidentally, I have noticed earlier that when I cancel something on the Web, it doesn't always delete it off the V2, so that may be what's happening, but no idea how to fix it

I've been having the same issue but to the extent when the ice team then change the premiere to a repeat the show is going back on my device to record even though the show is on the app & website as a repeat & not set to record. So i'm having to delete the upcoming recording twice.
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: aeb001 on February 16, 2021, 03:15:19 PM
@lisa or @tiphanee these 2 will be repeats of last weeks episodes as new ones are on that night
Jamie's Easy Meals For Every Day - 10 HD, 1:00pm, Wed, 17 Feb 2021, 30 minutes
Jamie's Easy Meals For Every Day - 10 HD, 1:30pm, Wed, 17 Feb 2021, 30 minutes
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: aeb001 on February 16, 2021, 03:20:20 PM
@lisa or @tiphanee
IFish - 10 Bold, 4:00pm, Sat, 20 Feb 2021, 30 minutes < saturdays are always repeats. Sunday is the new episode. Forgot to message last week & let you know
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: aeb001 on February 16, 2021, 03:26:41 PM
@lisa or @tiphanee
Escape With ET - 10 Bold, 10:30am, Sun, 21 Feb 2021, 30 minutes < repeat of saturdays episode
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: aeb001 on February 16, 2021, 03:28:23 PM
@lisa or @tiphanee
these double episodes are repeats & have been coming through each sunday for the last few weeks but with everything else i had forgotten to mention them
Fishing: Reel Action - 10 Bold, 3:30pm, Sun, 21 Feb 2021, 30 minutes
Fishing: Reel Action - 10 Bold, 4:00pm, Sun, 21 Feb 2021, 30 minutes
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: Tiphanee on February 16, 2021, 04:33:04 PM
Have also fixed all of these too.

Changes should come through shortly.

Cheers

Tiphanee
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: IanL-S on February 17, 2021, 11:54:25 AM
I am still getting multiple scheduling of the same program on my two 7100+. In each case there is either one or two instances that have an error message [TASK_MSG_INVALID_SERVICE] and one which is successful - time is exactly the same. See attachment for details.

Ian
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: aeb001 on February 17, 2021, 02:18:24 PM
@lisa or @tiphanee
First Dates - 7flix, 8:30pm, Sun, 21 Feb 2021, 70 minutes < is marked as a premiere & has made my other recordings fail please fix urgently so i can reschedule them
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: aeb001 on February 17, 2021, 02:19:45 PM
Quote from: aeb001 on February 16, 2021, 03:15:19 PM
@lisa or @tiphanee these 2 will be repeats of last weeks episodes as new ones are on that night
Jamie's Easy Meals For Every Day - 10 HD, 1:00pm, Wed, 17 Feb 2021, 30 minutes
Jamie's Easy Meals For Every Day - 10 HD, 1:30pm, Wed, 17 Feb 2021, 30 minutes

@tipahnee this was NOT fixed & is currently recording
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: aeb001 on February 17, 2021, 02:32:55 PM
repeats
Ambulance: Code Red - 7HD, 11:15pm, Sat, 20 Feb 2021, 60 minutes
Holey Moley Australia - 7flix, 4:00pm, Sun, 21 Feb 2021, 90 minutes
Holey Moley Australia - 7flix, 5:30pm, Sun, 21 Feb 2021, 90 minutes
Holey Moley Australia - 7flix, 4:30pm, Mon, 22 Feb 2021, 90 minutes
First Dates - 7flix, 8:30pm, Sun, 21 Feb 2021, 70 minutes
First Dates - 7flix, 9:40pm, Sun, 21 Feb 2021, 70 minutes
Hell's Kitchen - 7flix, 11:30pm, Mon, 22 Feb 2021, 60 minutes < episode details missing but im pretty sure is part of season 9
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: Lisa on February 17, 2021, 02:44:26 PM
Hi Adrian,

I have applied the R flag to these shows you have mentioned.....they should come thru' shortly and hopefully they "stick" !

cheers,  Lisa
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: IanL-S on February 17, 2021, 02:47:18 PM
Tonight something rather odd. The onlie guide gives the following:
Michael Palin: Travels Of A Lifetime 'Series 1, Episode 2' SBS HD, 8:30pm, Wed, 17 Feb 2021, 55 minutes REPEAT

I doubt this is a repeat as S01E01 was on last week.

Ian

Just watched The Pier which was on last night and SBS were advertising the program as a premier.
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: csutak40 on February 17, 2021, 09:13:08 PM
Graham Norton is scheduled to record twice (8.30 & 9.30)  The guests are the same, so obviously one of those is incorrect, but not sure which one

Also, Cold Feet is scheduled to record, but I am sure it is a repeat.  Season 6 was on in 2016
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: Lisa on February 18, 2021, 10:33:25 AM
Hi csutak40,

thankyou for alerting us to this error. Graham Norton guests should update shortly with the repeat being at 9.30pm.
Cold Feet are repeats. I can see that it is flagged R for today and tomorrow....but have popped it on for Monday.


cheers,  Lisa 
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: aeb001 on February 18, 2021, 02:31:54 PM
Quote from: aeb001 on February 17, 2021, 02:18:24 PM
@lisa or @tiphanee
First Dates - 7flix, 8:30pm, Sun, 21 Feb 2021, 70 minutes < is marked as a premiere & has made my other recordings fail please fix urgently so i can reschedule them

@lisa or @tiphanee this one is still not fixed so my sunday recordings are still failing because of a recorder being taken
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: aeb001 on February 18, 2021, 02:41:37 PM
@lisa or @tiphanee all of these repeats have appeared overnight
Escape With ET - 10 HD, 7:00am, Sat, 20 Feb 2021, 30 minutes
All 4 Adventure - 10 HD, 8:30am, Sat, 20 Feb 2021, 60 minutes
Motorsport: TCR Australia - '2021 -Round 2 - Phillip Island' - 7mate HD, 10:00am, Sat, 20 Feb 2021, 240 minutes < cancelled on all other guides
Three Blue Ducks - 10 HD, 2:00pm, Sat, 20 Feb 2021, 30 minutes
The Children's Hospital - 10 HD, 11:00pm, Sat, 20 Feb 2021, 30 minutes
Motorsport: TCR Australia - '2021 -Round 2 - Phillip Island' - 7mate HD, 8:00am, Sun, 21 Feb 2021, 240 minutes < cancelled on all other guides
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: csutak40 on February 18, 2021, 03:54:49 PM
Quote from: Lisa on February 18, 2021, 10:33:25 AM
Hi csutak40,

thankyou for alerting us to this error. Graham Norton guests should update shortly with the repeat being at 9.30pm.
Cold Feet are repeats. I can see that it is flagged R for today and tomorrow....but have popped it on for Monday.


cheers,  Lisa
Thank you for fixing this, however, the problem of the "fix" not always updating on the Wiz still remains.  Well, not quite, just noticed that the guests for the second show for Graham Norton have changed, but it is still scheduled to record.  I won't delete it just yet, in case you need to look at it
However, Cold Feet seems to be fixed
Just noticed another thing... The Ellen show is scheduled for both Gem and 9 on some days
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: Lisa on February 18, 2021, 06:17:15 PM
hello Again,
I have alerted our IT Dan to your problem of it not updating on the Wiz....unfortunately I can only attend to Guide problems.
Ellen is usually scheduled on 9 and repeats are on 9Gem the following morning....usually....

thanks Lisa
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: Lisa on February 18, 2021, 06:21:52 PM
Hi Adrian,

have gone thru' your list of repeats and hopefully have caught them all.
Motorsport TCR should be all fixed and updated by the morning.
With the First Dates issue..they are both showing the R flag on the guide....it may be a Dan ask if they are not deleting from your recordings automatically....


cheers,  Lisa
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: aeb001 on February 18, 2021, 06:42:16 PM
@lisa first dates has the repeat flag, is first runs only but is still in the guide to record (with the clash icon). screenshot attached for dan. I'll now manually remove it & see what happens.
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: prl on February 18, 2021, 06:48:51 PM
Quote from: Tiphanee on February 11, 2021, 06:36:28 PM
Busted in Bangkok has now been fixed for tonight. You should see the change reflected shortly.

Hi, Tiphanee. Tonight's Busted in Bangkok (Prime7 & Prime 7HD, 18 Feb 22:00) is also incorrectly marked as a first run. Sorry I didn't notice it earlier.
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: Daniel Hall at IceTV on February 18, 2021, 07:52:17 PM
Quote from: aeb001 on February 18, 2021, 06:42:16 PM
@lisa first dates has the repeat flag, is first runs only but is still in the guide to record (with the clash icon). screenshot attached for dan. I'll now manually remove it & see what happens.

For this one, the system doesn't currently do much with timers marked as 'failed', they do not get re-scheduled automatically or get removed.

We can however have a look at clearing them out if they would no longer be relevant, which is what happened here.
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: prl on February 18, 2021, 08:29:04 PM
Hi, Daniel.

On the Beyonwiz, timers hardly ever get marked as "failed" anyway.
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: aeb001 on February 19, 2021, 07:03:33 AM
Daniel, I had to manually remove it from the app & device to get FBI: Most wanted to record.
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: aeb001 on February 19, 2021, 01:51:04 PM
@lisa or @tiphanee these have appeared (some reappeared after previous fixes) & it would appear so because they dont have episode details to match against your database i.e. three blue ducks s01e02 repeat of sat arvo airing

Motorsport: TCR Australia - '2021 -Round 2 - Phillip Island' - 7mate HD, 10:00am, Sat, 20 Feb 2021, 240 minutes < replaced in all other guides
Bondi Rescue - 10 HD, 6:00pm, Sat, 20 Feb 2021, 30 minutes
Bondi Rescue - 10 HD, 6:30pm, Sat, 20 Feb 2021, 30 minutes
Motorsport: TCR Australia - '2021 -Round 2 - Phillip Island'- 7mate HD, 8:00am, Sun, 21 Feb 2021, 240 minutes < replaced in all other guides
Bondi Rescue - 10 Bold, 8:00am, Sun, 21 Feb 2021, 30 minutes
All 4 Adventure - 10 HD, 12:00pm, Sun, 21 Feb 2021, 60 minutes
Holey Moley Australia - 7HD, 1:00pm, Sun, 21 Feb 2021, 90 minutes
Three Blue Ducks - 10 HD, 2:00pm, Sun, 21 Feb 2021, 30 minutes
Holey Moley Australia - 7HD, 2:30pm, Sun, 21 Feb 2021, 90 minutes
Jamie's Easy Meals For Every Day - 10 HD, 2:50pm, Sun, 21 Feb 2021, 30 minutes
Jamie's Easy Meals For Every Day - 10 HD, 3:20pm, Sun, 21 Feb 2021, 30 minutes
Bondi Rescue - 10 Bold, 6:30pm, Sun, 21 Feb 2021, 30 minutes
Bondi Rescue - 10 Bold, 7:00pm, Sun, 21 Feb 2021, 30 minutes
Bondi Rescue - 10 Bold, 3:00pm, Mon, 22 Feb 2021, 30 minutes
Bondi Rescue - 10 Bold, 6:30pm, Mon, 22 Feb 2021, 30 minutes
Bondi Rescue - 10 Bold, 7:00pm, Mon, 22 Feb 2021, 30 minutes
Bondi Rescue - Tuesday & wed episodes are okay for some reason?
Step Outside With Paul Burt - 7mate HD, 6:00am, Wed, 24 Feb 2021, 30 minutes
Mark Berg's Fishing Addiction - 'NZ With Broady, Part 2' - 7mate HD, 6:30am, Wed, 24 Feb 2021, 60 minutes < has ep details but not marked as a repeat
Bondi Rescue - 10 HD, 1:00pm, Thu, 25 Feb 2021, 30 minutes
Bondi Rescue - 10 HD, 1:30pm, Thu, 25 Feb 2021, 30 minutes
Bondi Rescue - 10 Bold, 3:00pm, Thu, 25 Feb 2021, 30 minutes
Bondi Rescue - 10 Bold, 6:30pm, Thu, 25 Feb 2021, 30 minutes
Bondi Rescue - 10 Bold, 7:00pm, Thu, 25 Feb 2021, 30 minutes
Bondi Rescue - 10 HD, 7:30pm, Thu, 25 Feb 2021, 30 minutes
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: Tiphanee on February 19, 2021, 03:24:24 PM
Hi Adrian -

Thanks for the list of repeats that you are seeing. I'm having a look at them now.

As well, for your information Bondi Rescue has a new season starting from Thursday so when we removed the 'r' flag at program level, it unfortunately applied to all the airings over the next week. We're in the process of putting a fix in for this one.

Cheers,

Tiphanee
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: aeb001 on February 19, 2021, 03:59:06 PM
i looked at a few of the soonest episodes of bondi rescue on other guides but saw repeats so took it as blanket repeat. Thanks for letting me know. Now that youve mentioned it i've gone looking elsewhere & 9's guide has all the episode numbers for shows ie Bondi rescue https://www.yourtv.com.au/program/bondi-rescue/187781/

Bondi Rescue - 10 HD, 7:30pm, Thu, 25 Feb 2021, 30 minutes < premiere Season 16, Episode 1
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: Trial_Master on February 19, 2021, 10:08:25 PM
I've left this for a few weeks while you are bedding in the new EPG platform.

Neighbours repeats every Sunday morning 09:00-11:30 10 Peach have not been flagged as repeats.

Bold and The Beautiful every Thursday morning 07:30 10HD has not been flagged as repeat.
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: aeb001 on February 20, 2021, 11:08:16 AM
@lisa or @tiphanee

Step Outside With Paul Burt has popped back up again yesterday. left it until this morning to see if it would resolve itself. note that only some days popped up & others stayed as repeats. 9's guide has the episode numbers / details for you > https://www.yourtv.com.au/program/step-outside-with-paul-burt/382172/

Step Outside With Paul Burt - 7mate HD, 6:00am, Mon, 22 Feb 2021, 30 minutes
Step Outside With Paul Burt - 7mate HD, 6:00am, Thu, 25 Feb 2021, 30 minutes
Step Outside With Paul Burt - 7mate HD, 6:00am, Fri, 26 Feb 2021, 30 minutes
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: aeb001 on February 20, 2021, 11:46:29 AM
@lisa & @tiphanee i'm not sure if these just appeared in the last few minutes, after my last comment. it's because they dont have episode number / details. 9's guide has all that info if you need to get it from somewhere.

Jamie's Easy Meals For Every Day - 10 HD, 1:00pm, Wed, 24 Feb 2021, 30 minutes
Jamie's Easy Meals For Every Day - 10 HD, 1:30pm, Wed, 24 Feb 2021, 30 minutes
Bondi Rescue - 10 Bold, 3:00pm, Wed, 24 Feb 2021, 30 minutes
Bondi Rescue - 10 Bold, 6:30pm, Wed, 24 Feb 2021, 30 minutes
Bondi Rescue - 10 Bold, 7:00pm, Wed, 24 Feb 2021, 30 minutes
Bondi Rescue - 10 HD, 1:00pm, Thu, 25 Feb 2021, 30 minutes
Bondi Rescue - 10 HD, 1:30pm, Thu, 25 Feb 2021, 30 minutes
Bondi Rescue - 10 Bold, 3:00pm, Thu, 25 Feb 2021, 30 minutes
Al McGlashan's Fish'n With Mates - 7mate HD, 4:00pm, Thu, 25 Feb 2021, 30 minutes
Bondi Rescue - 10 Bold, 6:30pm, Thu, 25 Feb 2021, 30 minutes
Bondi Rescue - 10 Bold, 7:00pm, Thu, 25 Feb 2021, 30 minutes
Street Outlaws - 9Rush Gold Coast, 12:30am, Fri, 26 Feb 2021, 60 minutes
Street Outlaws: No Prep Kings - 9Rush Gold Coast, 1:30am, Fri, 26 Feb 2021, 60 minutes
Pawn Stars - 7mate HD, 4:00am, Fri, 26 Feb 2021, 30 minutes
Pawn Stars - 7mate HD, 9:00am, Fri, 26 Feb 2021, 30 minutes
Bondi Rescue - 10 Bold, 3:00pm, Fri, 26 Feb 2021, 30 minutes
Bondi Rescue - 10 Bold, 6:30pm, Fri, 26 Feb 2021, 30 minutes
Bondi Rescue - 10 Bold, 7:00pm, Fri, 26 Feb 2021, 30 minutes


Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: prl on February 20, 2021, 11:53:10 AM
Quote from: aeb001 on February 20, 2021, 11:46:29 AM
9's guide has all that info if you need to get it from somewhere.

IceTV needs to be careful about exactly what it takes from the commercial broadcasters' EPGs. Nine has pursued them on that in the past (unsuccessfully, but it went to the High Court).
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: Lisa on February 20, 2021, 12:38:44 PM
Hello Trial Master,

Thankyou for your note.
I have applied the R flag to Neighbours for tomorrow morning and also Bold & Beautiful. We are trying to catch these in our daily checks..sometimes they sneak thru' unfortunately...

cheers,  Lisa
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: Lisa on February 20, 2021, 01:52:05 PM
Hi Adrian,

have gone thru' your list and applied the R flag. Please let us know if you find that I have missed any...I was going a bit "crosse-eyed" in the end there.

cheers,  Lisa
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: csutak40 on February 20, 2021, 02:04:22 PM
While you're checking...
The Late shows (Stephen Colbert, Trevor Noah &  James Corden) are often repeats.  Sometimes they are scheduled twice in the one night (as is Ellen) so one of them must be a repeat.  I presume Stephen Colbert is on a break ATM, because all the shows this week were repeats
I also often get both the Standard & High Definition recording
This happened last night with Graham Norton (and I just deleted one of them for Grand Designs New Zealand) Both started and finished at exactly the same time.
BTW, the last couple of weeks Graham Norton seems to start very late, miss the end of the show, even with 20 minute padding
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: aeb001 on February 20, 2021, 02:30:13 PM
Quote from: prl on February 20, 2021, 11:53:10 AM
IceTV needs to be careful about exactly what it takes from the commercial broadcasters' EPGs. Nine has pursued them on that in the past (unsuccessfully, but it went to the High Court).

@prl I'm well aware as at the time my employer at the time was a business partnered with IceTV.

The info im talking about was clearly supplied to 9 (and freeview but their website is so hard to use) by 7 & 10 so it came frome a amalgumated source. I was just pointing out that icetv's end product is slipping through without the episode details in place, hence why everything is coming up as a premiere when in actual fact are repeats. This is why lisa is then manual marking them as repeats which she shouldnt have to do as their aired episode db should simply tell the guide, previously aired = repeat.
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: aeb001 on February 20, 2021, 08:44:38 PM
@lisa or @tiphanee now  these have popped up. they dont have epsode details & as such have come back from mid week

Holey Moley Australia - 7flix, 4:30pm, Mon, 22 Feb 2021, 90 minutes < doesn't have episode details & as such have come back after being reported « Reply #50 on: February 17, 2021, 02:32:55 PM »
Street Outlaws: No Prep Kings - 'Texas Takedown' - 9Rush Gold Coast, 1:30am, Fri, 26 Feb 2021, 60 minutes < repeat of thurs night. reported « on: February 20, 2021, 11:46:29 AM » but now it has episode details. This one is definitely a repeat
Pawn Stars - 'Seven Barreled Pawn' - 7mate HD, 9:00am, Fri, 26 Feb 2021, 30 minutes < previously reported « on: February 20, 2021, 11:46:29 AM » but now it has episode details but still came through. is it definitely a premiere?
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: prl on February 21, 2021, 10:34:09 AM
Quote from: aeb001 on February 20, 2021, 02:30:13 PM
The info im talking about was clearly supplied to 9 (and freeview but their website is so hard to use) by 7 & 10 so it came frome a amalgumated source.

Yes, but the broadcasters have agreements to supply their EPGs to the aggregator, and to use other broadcaster's EPG data as supplied by the aggregator. IceTV has no such agreement. It has, as I understand it, agreements with the ABC and SBS to use their respective EPGs (and then there are potential copyright issues if they modify those EPGs).

It's not at all clear to me whether season/episode data in the broadcasters' EPGs is considered part of the "time and title" information that IceTV argued was not subject to copyright. IceTV still generates its own EPG for the commercial broadcasters, it doesn't use the broadcasters' EPGs, except for verification.

Quote from: aeb001 on February 20, 2021, 02:30:13 PM
I was just pointing out that icetv's end product is slipping through without the episode details in place, hence why everything is coming up as a premiere when in actual fact are repeats. This is why lisa is then manual marking them as repeats which she shouldnt have to do as their aired episode db should simply tell the guide, previously aired = repeat.

My understanding is that the first run/repeat decision is not made in the code just using the series/episode numbers (that would probably be a much bigger mess than what has actually happened). My understanding is that a repeat is identified in the database by it having a "last aired" date. That's presumably done by looking for airing dates for episodes with the same show_id & episode_id, though it's not clear to me exactly how a new EPG entry for an episode is checked back against the database to assign it its show_id/episode_id if there has already been a showing of that episode.

The schema for the JSON/XML external view of the IceTV database is in http://developer.icetv.com.au/legacy/Home.html, though it's not entirely up to date.

I have no idea how IceTV's actual data curation process works.
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: aeb001 on February 22, 2021, 09:06:58 AM
@lisa or @tiphanee

Jamie's Easy Meals For Every Day - 'Series 1, Episode 9' - 10 HD, 1:00pm, Wed, 24 Feb 2021, 30 minutes < previously reported « Reply #70 on: February 20, 2021, 11:46:29 AM » but now has a episode name
Jamie's Easy Meals For Every Day - 'Series 1, Episode 10' - 10 HD, 1:30pm, Wed, 24 Feb 2021, 30 minutes < previously reported « Reply #70 on: February 20, 2021, 11:46:29 AM » but now has a episode name
Step Outside With Paul Burt - 7mate HD, 6:00am, Sat, 27 Feb 2021, 30 minutes
Step Outside With Paul Burt - 7mate HD, 6:30am, Sat, 27 Feb 2021, 30 minutes
Escape With ET - 'Series 22, Episode 4' - 10 Bold, 10:30am, Sun, 28 Feb 2021, 30 minutes
All 4 Adventure - 'Series 12, Episode 4' - 10 HD, 12:00pm, Sun, 28 Feb 2021, 60 minutes
Fishing: Reel Action - 10 Bold, 3:30pm, Sun, 28 Feb 2021, 30 minutes
Fishing: Reel Action - 10 Bold, 4:00pm, Sun, 28 Feb 2021, 30 minutes
Bondi Rescue - 'Series 6, Episode 5' - 10 Bold, 6:30pm, Sun, 28 Feb 2021, 30 minutes
Bondi Rescue - 'Series 6, Episode 6' - 10 Bold, 7:00pm, Sun, 28 Feb 2021, 30 minutes
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: Trial_Master on February 22, 2021, 03:43:58 PM
Quote from: Lisa on February 20, 2021, 12:38:44 PM
Hello Trial Master,

Thankyou for your note.
I have applied the R flag to Neighbours for tomorrow morning and also Bold & Beautiful. We are trying to catch these in our daily checks..sometimes they sneak thru' unfortunately...

cheers,  Lisa

Thanks Lisa
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: Tiphanee on February 22, 2021, 07:39:47 PM
Hi Adrian -

Have gone through your list and have corrected where necessary. You should see the changes reflected in the next 15 minutes.

As well, we have made some adjustments to our new database system which over the next week should begin to see programmes flagged correctly.

Have a lovely evening,

Tiphanee
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: aeb001 on February 22, 2021, 08:12:15 PM
Cheers @Tiphanee
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: Trial_Master on February 22, 2021, 10:09:24 PM
ABC News 7pm (ABC TV HD) is picking up repeats on weekend.

Saturday 10am, 1pm, 2pm, 3pm
Sunday 10am, 12pm, 1pm, 2pm, 4pm, 6pm
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: MD on February 22, 2021, 11:18:12 PM
Hi Trial_Master,

We've fixed the major issue which is that you had ABC News set for any channel so you were picking up the multiple ABC News broadcasts on other channels apart from ABC HD with the same title.  I have updated your account to only record ABC News on ABC HD which is only at 7pm. We still have a question mark as to why you are showing ABC News to record on ABC HD on Sunday at 12 Noon when on our guide it is named ABC News at Noon.  It may clear overnight but we will revisit it in the morning,
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: Trial_Master on February 22, 2021, 11:40:40 PM
Quote from: MD on February 22, 2021, 11:18:12 PM
Hi Trial_Master,

We've fixed the major issue which is that you had ABC News set for any channel so you were picking up the multiple ABC News broadcasts on other channels apart from ABC HD with the same title.  I have updated your account to only record ABC News on ABC HD which is only at 7pm. We still have a question mark as to why you are showing ABC News to record on ABC HD on Sunday at 12 Noon when on our guide it is named ABC News at Noon.  It may clear overnight but we will revisit it in the morning,

Thanks for updating. I will also keep an eye on the 12pm straggler.
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: csutak40 on February 23, 2021, 01:17:03 AM
I am getting pretty frustrated.
Even the shows that I delete, knowing that it has to be a repeat, somehow re-appers and records anyway
Example:

The other show I stopped writing about here (as I've done so often) is the Project.  There is a repeat every night after 10, it is set to record most nights.  I found that that was going to record twice, both standard and HD
Mind you, having deleted them, they may re-appear anyway
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: Trial_Master on February 23, 2021, 10:26:29 AM
Quote from: MD on February 22, 2021, 11:18:12 PM
Hi Trial_Master,

We've fixed the major issue which is that you had ABC News set for any channel so you were picking up the multiple ABC News broadcasts on other channels apart from ABC HD with the same title.  I have updated your account to only record ABC News on ABC HD which is only at 7pm. We still have a question mark as to why you are showing ABC News to record on ABC HD on Sunday at 12 Noon when on our guide it is named ABC News at Noon.  It may clear overnight but we will revisit it in the morning,

I think the issue is the Sunday noon news has same name as 7pm, whereas Saturday as an example does not.

Saturday: ABC News At Noon - ABC TV HD, 12:00pm, Sat, 27 Feb 2021, 30 minutes
Sunday: ABC News - ABC TV HD, 12:00pm, Sun, 28 Feb 2021, 30 minutes

Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: MD on February 23, 2021, 10:45:24 AM
Yes that is correct.  We are looking at updating it today.
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: aeb001 on February 23, 2021, 12:12:34 PM
@lisa or @tiphanee

IFish - 10 Bold, 4:00pm, Sat, 27 Feb 2021, 30 minutes
Motorsport: Supercars - '2021 - Bathurst 500 Highlights - Day 1' - 7mate HD, 3:30pm, Mon, 1 Mar 2021, 60 minutes
Motorsport: Supercars - 7mate HD, 4:30pm, Mon, 1 Mar 2021, 60 minutes
Hell's Kitchen - 7flix, 11:30pm, Mon, 1 Mar 2021, 60 minutes
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: Daniel Hall at IceTV on February 23, 2021, 02:20:59 PM
Quote from: Trial_Master on February 23, 2021, 10:26:29 AM
Quote from: MD on February 22, 2021, 11:18:12 PM
Hi Trial_Master,

We've fixed the major issue which is that you had ABC News set for any channel so you were picking up the multiple ABC News broadcasts on other channels apart from ABC HD with the same title.  I have updated your account to only record ABC News on ABC HD which is only at 7pm. We still have a question mark as to why you are showing ABC News to record on ABC HD on Sunday at 12 Noon when on our guide it is named ABC News at Noon.  It may clear overnight but we will revisit it in the morning,

I think the issue is the Sunday noon news has same name as 7pm, whereas Saturday as an example does not.

Saturday: ABC News At Noon - ABC TV HD, 12:00pm, Sat, 27 Feb 2021, 30 minutes
Sunday: ABC News - ABC TV HD, 12:00pm, Sun, 28 Feb 2021, 30 minutes

Just as a heads up on this one, we have notified ABC of the error to look at getting it sorted, this particular airing is wrong in about half of the regions around Australia.
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: aeb001 on February 23, 2021, 06:27:45 PM
@lisa or @tiphanee this repeat airs in a few hours

Aussie Salvage Squad - 'Bogged 20 Ton Excavator /Time Dependant Old Vessel Retrieval' 7mate HD, 7:30pm, Tue, 23 Feb 2021, 60 minutes
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: Trial_Master on February 24, 2021, 08:35:13 AM
Quote from: MD on February 23, 2021, 10:45:24 AM
Yes that is correct.  We are looking at updating it today.

Thank you
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: Trial_Master on February 24, 2021, 08:38:59 AM
Quote from: Daniel Hall at IceTV on February 23, 2021, 02:20:59 PM
Just as a heads up on this one, we have notified ABC of the error to look at getting it sorted, this particular airing is wrong in about half of the regions around Australia.

Thanks Daniel. Appreciate you and team working through all the issues.
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: aeb001 on February 24, 2021, 04:10:57 PM
@lisa or @tiphanee

Hell's Kitchen - 'Series 9, Episode 15' - 7flix, 11:30pm, Mon, 1 Mar 2021, 60 minutes
Deadliest Catch: Dungeon Cove - 'Cursed Bay' - 9Rush Gold Coast, 11:30pm, Mon, 1 Mar 2021, 60 minutes
Finding Escobar's Millions - 'The Jungle' - 9Rush Gold Coast, 12:30am, Tue, 2 Mar 2021, 60 minutes
Bering Sea Gold: Under The Ice - 'Sunken Treasure' - 9Rush Gold Coast, 1:30am, Tue, 2 Mar 2021, 60 minutes
Restoration Workshop - 'Series 1, Episode 6' - 7mate HD, 4:00am, Tue, 2 Mar 2021, 60 minutes
Restoration Workshop - 'Series 1, Episode 6' - 7mate HD, 3:00pm, Tue, 2 Mar 2021, 60 minutes
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: prl on February 25, 2021, 11:01:20 AM
Busted In Bangkok 'Series 1, Episode 5' Prime7 HD, 9:45pm, Thu, 25 Feb (tonight) is listed as first run, though it's a repeat. Earlier in the week it was listed as a repeat, but it seems to have switched back to first run in the last couple of days (I hadn't checked it for a few days).

This one seems to keep coming back as a first run. Is there a way to fix that, rather than fixing it episode by episode?
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: Lisa on February 25, 2021, 12:19:40 PM
Hi prl,

am so sorry...that was my error with Busted in Bangkok....I took the R OFF in error....it is now back in!

cheers, Lisa
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: prl on February 25, 2021, 04:10:09 PM
Hi, Lisa, no problem. It looks good now :)

Thanks.
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: aeb001 on February 25, 2021, 04:12:57 PM
Quote from: aeb001 on February 24, 2021, 04:10:57 PM
@lisa or @tiphanee

Restoration Workshop - 'Series 1, Episode 6' - 7mate HD, 4:00am, Tue, 2 Mar 2021, 60 minutes

@lisa or @tiphanee the above got missed, plus the following has slipped through

Step Outside With Paul Burt - 7mate HD, 6:00am, Wed, 3 Mar 2021, 30 minutes
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: aeb001 on February 26, 2021, 05:04:34 PM
Quote from: aeb001 on February 25, 2021, 04:12:57 PM
@lisa or @tiphanee the above got missed, plus the following has slipped through

Step Outside With Paul Burt - 7mate HD, 6:00am, Wed, 3 Mar 2021, 30 minutes

@lisa the above didn't get fixed & now another slipped through because they dont have episode info.

Step Outside With Paul Burt - 7mate HD, 6:00am, Thu, 4 Mar 2021, 30 minutes
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: csutak40 on February 27, 2021, 11:03:39 AM
I am sure that Andrew Denton's "Interview" is a repeat (on 7)
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: BazzaG on February 27, 2021, 02:45:13 PM
Quote from: csutak40 on February 27, 2021, 11:03:39 AM
I am sure that Andrew Denton's "Interview" is a repeat (on 7)

Must be a repeat as Seven has cancelled the show.....
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: aeb001 on February 27, 2021, 02:59:09 PM
@lisa repeats that have popped up overnight

All 4 Adventure - 'Series 12, Episode 4' - 10 HD, 12:00pm, Sun, 28 Feb 2021, 60 minutes
Young Sheldon - 'Body Glitter and a Mall Safety Kit' - 9Go!, 11:00pm, Thu, 4 Mar 2021, 30 minutes
Young Sheldon - 'Contracts, Rules and a Little Bit of Pig Brains' - 9Go!, 11:30pm, Thu, 4 Mar 2021, 30 minutes
Street Outlaws - 'What's Up, Doc?' - 9Rush Gold Coast, 12:30am, Fri, 5 Mar 2021, 60 minutes
Street Outlaws: No Prep Kings - 'When The Dust Settles' - 9Rush Gold Coast, 1:30am, Fri, 5 Mar 2021, 60 minutes
Pawn Stars - 'Houston, We Have A Deal' - 7mate HD, 4:30am, Fri, 5 Mar 2021, 30 minutes - (weird episode number)
Step Outside With Paul Burt - 7mate HD, 6:00am, Fri, 5 Mar 2021, 30 minutes
Pawn Stars - 'Houston, We Have A Deal' - 7mate HD, 9:00am, Fri, 5 Mar 2021, 30 minutes
L.A.'s Finest - 'Kangaroo Jack' - 10 Bold, 2:00pm, Fri, 5 Mar 2021, 60 minutes
Ambulance: Code Red - 7HD, 10:30pm, Fri, 5 Mar 2021, 60 minutes
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: BazzaG on February 27, 2021, 03:16:11 PM
The Vaccine
ABC News
Friday Nights
7:45pm

Marked as a REPEAT, but this is its weekly premier timeslot.

Any other day/time and/or ABC channel are repeats.
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: GaiO IceTV on February 27, 2021, 03:56:39 PM
Hi BazzaG,
Thanks for your note. I have checked and corrected any repeat issues going forwards with this programme.
Cheers Gai
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: csutak40 on February 28, 2021, 01:00:37 AM
And this is still happening

A Current Affair 9HD Melbourne, 1:05am, Tue, 2 Mar 2021, 25 minutes
A Current Affair 9HD Melbourne, 1:00am, Wed, 3 Mar 2021, 30 minutes
A Current Affair 9HD Melbourne, 1:05am, Thu, 4 Mar 2021, 25 minutes
The Project 10 HD, 10:30pm, Wed, 3 Mar 2021, 60 minutes
Interview 'Gene Simmons' 7TWO, 11:30pm, Thu, 4 Mar 2021, 60 minutes


Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: NBOSTI on February 28, 2021, 05:14:48 AM
It seems that I get a lot of repeats showing up on "My Week" when they are set for first runs only.
Mainly on 7mate. But more often now on any 9  channels. 96 to be more exact.
If I leave it for a few days and somebody else has reported these, well they go away.
I noticed that if there is no series or episode # they will show up to record until the day of airing, but Young Sheldon has that info in the web guide and is still showing as set to be sent to device.
Others are; Pawn Stars, American Pickers, Diesel Brothers, American Restoration....
I am in Perth, if that helps.
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: Trial_Master on February 28, 2021, 08:09:11 AM
Quote from: Lisa on February 20, 2021, 12:38:44 PM
Hello Trial Master,

Thankyou for your note.
I have applied the R flag to Neighbours for tomorrow morning and also Bold & Beautiful. We are trying to catch these in our daily checks..sometimes they sneak thru' unfortunately...

cheers,  Lisa

Hi Lisa

Unfortunately all the Neighbours episodes I mentioned on previous post are all scheduled to record again this morning?

In addition Bold & Beautiful @07:30 on Wed is also a repeat.
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: prl on February 28, 2021, 03:25:09 PM
Taronga: Who's Who In The Zoo 'Nala', 9HD Canberra, 7:30pm, Thu, 4 Mar

is flagged as a first run. Its Wikipedia entry says that its first airing was 14 March 2020 with 507,000 viewers (I couldn't find it on IMDb). Looks like a repeat :) No recent earlier episodes in this run on Nine have been marked as first run (if there have been any).
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: aeb001 on February 28, 2021, 06:05:02 PM
Quote from: prl on February 28, 2021, 03:25:09 PM
Taronga: Who's Who In The Zoo 'Nala', 9HD Canberra, 7:30pm, Thu, 4 Mar

is flagged as a first run. Its Wikipedia entry says that its first airing was 14 March 2020 with 507,000 viewers (I couldn't find it on IMDb). Looks like a repeat :) No recent earlier episodes in this run on Nine have been marked as first run (if there have been any).

@prl i saw it on 14/3/2020. It was actually the 6th of 10 episodes.
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: aeb001 on March 01, 2021, 11:48:53 AM
Quote from: aeb001 on February 27, 2021, 02:59:09 PM
@lisa repeats that have popped up overnight

Step Outside With Paul Burt - 7mate HD, 6:00am, Fri, 5 Mar 2021, 30 minutes

@lisa this one didnt get sorted. thanks for getting the others
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: csutak40 on March 01, 2021, 01:33:41 PM
Quote from: csutak40 on February 28, 2021, 01:00:37 AM
And this is still happening

A Current Affair 9HD Melbourne, 1:05am, Tue, 2 Mar 2021, 25 minutes
A Current Affair 9HD Melbourne, 1:00am, Wed, 3 Mar 2021, 30 minutes
A Current Affair 9HD Melbourne, 1:05am, Thu, 4 Mar 2021, 25 minutes
The Project 10 HD, 10:30pm, Wed, 3 Mar 2021, 60 minutes
Interview 'Gene Simmons' 7TWO, 11:30pm, Thu, 4 Mar 2021, 60 minutes

I am confused.  Seems The Project and the Interview has been fixed on the Web, but The Project hasn't deleted itself off my schedule.
OTOH, seems the Current Affair still hasn't been fixed  (just noticed, Ellen has been fixed for tomorrow, but not the rest of the week)
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: prl on March 02, 2021, 10:29:22 AM
Quote from: aeb001 on February 28, 2021, 06:05:02 PM
Quote from: prl on February 28, 2021, 03:25:09 PM
Taronga: Who's Who In The Zoo 'Nala', 9HD Canberra, 7:30pm, Thu, 4 Mar

is flagged as a first run. Its Wikipedia entry says that its first airing was 14 March 2020 with 507,000 viewers (I couldn't find it on IMDb). Looks like a repeat :) No recent earlier episodes in this run on Nine have been marked as first run (if there have been any).

@prl i saw it on 14/3/2020. It was actually the 6th of 10 episodes.

It's still being flagged as first run, at least in the ACT guide.
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: aeb001 on March 02, 2021, 03:46:39 PM
Quote from: aeb001 on March 01, 2021, 11:48:53 AM
Quote from: aeb001 on February 27, 2021, 02:59:09 PM
@lisa repeats that have popped up overnight

Step Outside With Paul Burt - 7mate HD, 6:00am, Fri, 5 Mar 2021, 30 minutes

@lisa this one didnt get sorted. thanks for getting the others

anyone?
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: aeb001 on March 02, 2021, 04:01:52 PM
@lisa

Fishing: Reel Action - 10 Bold, 3:30pm, Sun, 7 Mar 2021, 30 minutes < definitely a repeat. the host of the show has contacted me & advised the new season will commence in July
Bondi Rescue - 10 Bold, 7:00pm, Sun, 7 Mar 2021, 30 minutes < arent the new episodes on thrusdays?
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: Trial_Master on March 02, 2021, 04:53:18 PM
Quote from: Trial_Master on February 28, 2021, 08:09:11 AM

Hi Lisa

Unfortunately all the Neighbours episodes I mentioned on previous post are all scheduled to record again this morning?

In addition Bold & Beautiful @07:30 on Wed is also a repeat.


Hi Lisa, further to all the repeat showings being taped last Sunday, I have timers for this Sunday to record them all again?
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: Lisa on March 02, 2021, 05:06:52 PM
Hi Adrian...thanks for that. We are not quite up to Sunday afternoon with our checks yet... will all be checked and updated tomorrow

Cheers Lisa
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: aeb001 on March 02, 2021, 07:46:34 PM
Quote from: Lisa on March 02, 2021, 05:06:52 PM
Hi Adrian...thanks for that. We are not quite up to Sunday afternoon with our checks yet... will all be checked and updated tomorrow

Cheers Lisa

what about the one from friday that i've reported 3 times. As i've (and others from what i've re4ad in the forum) previously said IceTV sends 5 days of the 7 day guide to the device however even when you make the changes to the ones we are notifying you of they are NOT coming out of the machine, (same goes for ones i remove using the app like movies that conflict with other recordings) and as such we are having to manually go on to the device each day & manual delete upcoming recordings. Hence the requests in advance to get things fixed as they are spoted by us.
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: aeb001 on March 04, 2021, 11:58:58 AM
@lisa

@prl sent this through on « Reply #107 on: February 28, 2021, 03:25:09 PM » but its still marked as a premiere. It aired 14/3/2020

Taronga: Who's Who In The Zoo - 'Nala' - 9HD Gold Coast, 7:30pm, Thu, 4 Mar 2021, 60 minutes
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: Lisa on March 04, 2021, 12:12:22 PM
Hi Adrian,

Tiphanee marked Who's Who In The Zoo as an R a few days ago...I can see it is showing as an R on our guide. I am not sure why you are seeing it still as a Prem...


thanks, Lisa
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: grumpy_geoff on March 04, 2021, 12:52:03 PM
Quote from: Lisa on March 04, 2021, 12:12:22 PM
Hi Adrian,

Tiphanee marked Who's Who In The Zoo as an R a few days ago...I can see it is showing as an R on our guide. I am not sure why you are seeing it still as a Prem...


thanks, Lisa

Not everywhere, I think you should check again -
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: Lisa on March 04, 2021, 01:11:17 PM
Thanks Adrian...all done for QLD now....NT, QLD, NSW & ACT appear to be the only States taking Nala tonight.....the other states have a new show called "Mega Zoo".....


Lisa
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: prl on March 04, 2021, 05:31:49 PM
Quote from: Lisa on March 04, 2021, 12:12:22 PM
Tiphanee marked Who's Who In The Zoo as an R a few days ago...I can see it is showing as an R on our guide. I am not sure why you are seeing it still as a Prem...

Hi, Lisa. Who's Who In The Zoo is now showing as a repeat for me (ACT guide).

Thanks.
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: Trial_Master on March 04, 2021, 07:12:54 PM
Reporting these again, still not resolved.

Neighbours repeats every Sunday morning 09:00-11:30 10 Peach have not been flagged as repeats.

Bold and The Beautiful every Wednesday morning 07:30 10HD has not been flagged as repeat.
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: aeb001 on March 04, 2021, 08:01:50 PM
@lisa

Step Outside With Paul Burt - 7mate HD, 6:00am, Sat, 6 Mar 2021, 30 minutes
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: Lisa on March 04, 2021, 08:16:09 PM
Hi Trial Master,
Thanks for letting us know. Not sure what is happening with Neighbours...I have marked Sunday as Repeats on Peach and will have a chat with Dan to try and resolve moving forward. We are giving most shows episodes so this problem doesn't arise...let me investigate.
The same applies with Bold & Beautiful and Judge Judy. I have not applied the R flag here yet...I would like to see if it applies automatically by midday tomorrow for next Wednesday....Episodes were only done today for next Wednesday so hopefully it will click in by tomorrow. I will apply them manually if not.

Thanks for your patience,

Cheers, Lisa
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: grumpy_geoff on March 04, 2021, 11:25:59 PM
Romulus 'Regere'
SBS VICELAND HD, 10:30pm, Sat, 6 Mar 2021
Season 1 Episode 2
needs attention
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: GaiO IceTV on March 05, 2021, 08:54:44 AM
Thanks Grumpy Geoff,
R flag added now.
Cheers Gai
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: aeb001 on March 05, 2021, 05:52:05 PM
Quote from: aeb001 on March 04, 2021, 08:01:50 PM
@lisa

Step Outside With Paul Burt - 7mate HD, 6:00am, Sat, 6 Mar 2021, 30 minutes

@lisa @gaio @tiphanee this is still there as a premiere
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: Tiphanee on March 05, 2021, 05:53:11 PM
Thanks for that Adrian, I'll fix shortly.

Cheers,

Tiphanee
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: prl on March 05, 2021, 05:59:07 PM
Quote from: prl on March 04, 2021, 05:31:49 PM
Quote from: Lisa on March 04, 2021, 12:12:22 PM
Tiphanee marked Who's Who In The Zoo as an R a few days ago...I can see it is showing as an R on our guide. I am not sure why you are seeing it still as a Prem...

Hi, Lisa. Who's Who In The Zoo is now showing as a repeat for me (ACT guide).

Thanks.

Hmmm, but despite it disappearing from my My Week, it still recorded. But I think that's a problem that's already been raised here - programs get marked as a repeat, and they are removed from My Week, but not from the PVR (might be a Beyonwiz-specific problem).
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: Trial_Master on March 05, 2021, 06:42:42 PM
Quote from: Lisa on March 04, 2021, 08:16:09 PM
Hi Trial Master,
The same applies with Bold & Beautiful and Judge Judy. I have not applied the R flag here yet...I would like to see if it applies automatically by midday tomorrow for next Wednesday....Episodes were only done today for next Wednesday so hopefully it will click in by tomorrow. I will apply them manually if not.

Thanks for your patience,

Cheers, Lisa

Thanks Lisa. There is a Bold on Monday @07:30 scheduled that wasn't there yesterday?
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: aeb001 on March 05, 2021, 09:02:19 PM
Quote from: Tiphanee on March 05, 2021, 05:53:11 PM
Thanks for that Adrian, I'll fix shortly.

Cheers,

Tiphanee

@tiphanee its still there in the qld guide as a premiere
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: BazzaG on March 06, 2021, 12:09:56 AM
The Record
'Series 1, Episode 1'
ABC TV Plus/Kids, 9:31pm, Sun, 7 Mar 2021, 59 minutes
REPEAT

The Record
'Series 1, Episode 2'
ABC TV Plus/Kids, 9:40pm, Mon, 8 Mar 2021, 65 minutes
REPEAT

Given that "The Record" only had it's premier broadcast on February 12th, 2021 on the Amazon Prime, I highly doubt that the above are repeats!!!!

On the other hand, these ARE repeats:

The Record
'Series 1, Episode 1'
ABC TV HD, 11:02am, Wed, 10 Mar 2021, 58 minutes
REPEAT

The Record
'Series 1, Episode 2'
ABC TV HD, 10:56am, Thu, 11 Mar 2021, 64 minutes
REPEAT

Also, the following not exist in the ABC EPG:

The Record
'Series 1, Episode 1'
ABC TV Plus/Kids, 10:46pm, Wed, 10 Mar 2021, 58 minutes
REPEAT

-----

And here's me thinking that women's sport has come so far in recent years, only to be relegated to the ABC's secondary channel at an hour when by the ABC's OWN admission, very few people are watching FTA TV on any channel as most have either gone to bed or are watching Netflix, Stan, Disney+, Amazon Prime, etc.
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: GaiO IceTV on March 06, 2021, 08:46:12 AM
Hi Bazza
Thanks for your note. I have marked Sun 7th and Mon 8th as new shows and the others were already marked as repeats in our system.  Unfortunately, the ABC website still has these marked as TBA's, but they appear to be marked new on other sites. 
Cheers Gai
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: Trial_Master on March 06, 2021, 11:34:54 AM
Landline @18:30 tonight on ABC TV HD is a repeat of last Sunday's episode.

Bold & The Beautiful @07:30 on 10 HD, Mon, Wed, Thurs are all repeats.

I take it the new database is problematic? Any ETA on when things will settle down?
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: GaiO IceTV on March 06, 2021, 03:08:27 PM
Thanks Trial_Master,
Repeat flag added to Landline for tonight.
One of our team members will look at the 10HD issue shortly.
Regards Gai
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: Lisa on March 06, 2021, 03:21:10 PM
Hi Trial Master,

yes we are having a few problems on some shows with the R flagging.....putting episodes on all shows is helping but in some regions it is not "grabbing' the episode in the first instance..hence some regions will show the R flag where applicable and others won't.
When you mentioned the other night about Bold & Beautiful, I looked the next day and it was there....looking today it disappeared again.
Dan is working tirelessly on fixing the bug, so hopefully this problem will be rectified as soon as possible.

cheers,  Lisa   
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: csutak40 on March 06, 2021, 07:05:17 PM
Quote from: prl on March 05, 2021, 05:59:07 PM


Hmmm, but despite it disappearing from my My Week, it still recorded. But I think that's a problem that's already been raised here - programs get marked as a repeat, and they are removed from My Week, but not from the PVR (might be a Beyonwiz-specific problem).
Yeah, that is an ongoing problem. ATM, I am in hospital, be here a while, so don't want things to record that shouldn't, lest I run out of room. I looked at My Week last night and found lots of double ups, which I deleted, but I am nearly sure it will still record
Then there are shows that used to show the guests (so you could tell if it was a repeat or not) but now only have a generic description
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: csutak40 on March 06, 2021, 10:57:41 PM
I will give one last try listing these.
I have listed most if not all of them several times and never seem to get an acknowledgement.
I know that we are told that there is no time to acknowledge all posts, but when the problem never seems to get resolved then you can't help but wonder if your posts were read at all.
So, here are the repeats that are/were (as I have now deleted them) found tonight.  Although I swear I deleted some of them last night, and they re-appeared

The Living Room... I thought this was just the daytime editions, but last Friday's show was a repeat as well
The Ellen DeGeneres Show on Gem
Everyday Gourmet with Justine Schofield
The Project (10.30 pm -11.30pm edition)
A Current Affair 1.30am
The Late Late Show With James Corden often has repeats (on the same night):
'Guests: 2021 - Tracey Morgan, Kings Of Leon' 10 Shake, 11:05pm, Wed, 10 Mar 2021, 55 minutes
'Guests: 2021 - Tracey Morgan, Kings Of Leon' 10 Shake, 4:00am, Thu, 11 Mar 2021, 60 minutes


Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: BazzaG on March 09, 2021, 06:24:42 PM
Melbourne...

QuoteAustralia in Colour
'Series 2 - Family'
SBS VICELAND HD, 7:30pm, Sat, 13 Mar 2021, 60 minutes

This is a REPEAT of the Wednesday night premier broadcast on SBS HD and marked as a REPEAT in the online SBS EPG.

Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: GaiO IceTV on March 10, 2021, 08:08:30 AM
Thanks Bazza,
Yes definitely a repeat and corrected now.
Cheers Gai
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: csutak40 on March 10, 2021, 04:54:06 PM
The Project (10.30 pm -11.30pm edition) is always a repeat.  I have been mentioning it in this thread several times, it still hasn't been fixed
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: Lisa on March 10, 2021, 06:38:22 PM
Hi csutak40,
Thankyou for your note.
We are having a little trouble with a couple of shows and the repeat flag "sticking" in some regions....and unfortunately the 2nd airing of The Project is one of them.
We endeavour to catch all them but on some occasions they will slip through.
Apologies for the inconvenience.

Cheers, Lisa
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: aeb001 on March 10, 2021, 07:57:56 PM
@lisa as sunday is now on the device the following repeats are still in the guide

Fishing Australia - 10 Bold, 4:00pm, Sun, 14 Mar 2021, 30 minutes
Fishing Australia - 10 Bold, 4:30pm, Sun, 14 Mar 2021, 30 minutes - 'Florida And Tassie - Giant Tarpon And Trout'
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: prl on March 12, 2021, 01:04:37 PM
I'm pretty sure that season 2 of Das Boot is a repeat, even if SBS isn't flagging it as a repeat. (Viceland HD Sun 14 Mar 23:55 & 15 Mar 01:00)

Even the broadcast times are suggestive that it's repeat.
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: GaiO IceTV on March 12, 2021, 02:08:07 PM
Hi PRL,
I agree the timing would suggest this but it is marked as a New Series Premiere by SBS and we only have series 1 in our database , so have marked as new.
Cheers Gai
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: prl on March 12, 2021, 02:38:16 PM
I distinctly remember some of the events in season 2, especially the attempt to release the families in the concentration camp transport (episode Letzte Entschidungen/Final Decisions). Perhaps we watched it on onDemand.
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: grumpy_geoff on March 12, 2021, 03:36:45 PM
Bodyguard was originally scheduled for Sun 14-Mar 21:30 and 22:40.  My T4 had 2 timers set for those times, sent by IceTV because the episodes were incorrectly left as premieres, whereas they're repeats.
The programs were then shifted to 22:30 and 23:40 as per IceTV online guide.
Now I have 1 timer set from 21:30 for (an unpadded) 2h:10m for now Flesh And Blood, and Bodyguard S01E05 (ice_timer_id="16686963641106577886" if Daniel Hall wants to investigate).
That combined timer shouldn't exist, as Bodyguard episodes are (now finally) marked as a repeat.
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: Daniel Hall at IceTV on March 12, 2021, 05:01:13 PM
Quote from: grumpy_geoff on March 12, 2021, 03:36:45 PM
Bodyguard was originally scheduled for Sun 14-Mar 21:30 and 22:40.  My T4 had 2 timers set for those times, sent by IceTV because the episodes were incorrectly left as premieres, whereas they're repeats.
The programs were then shifted to 22:30 and 23:40 as per IceTV online guide.
Now I have 1 timer set from 21:30 for (an unpadded) 2h:10m for now Flesh And Blood, and Bodyguard S01E05 (ice_timer_id="16686963641106577886" if Daniel Hall wants to investigate).
That combined timer shouldn't exist, as Bodyguard episodes are (now finally) marked as a repeat.

Hi grumpy_geoff,

I have had a look at this one and this timer was marked as being 'manually recorded by user', we have seen this a couple of times now where the Beyonwiz incorrectly marks a show as 'manually recorded' and it then doesn't get removed if the underlying show is removed, which is what happened in this instance. For now you should just cancel the timer and it won't come back.
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: grumpy_geoff on March 12, 2021, 06:29:18 PM
Quote from: Daniel Hall at IceTV on March 12, 2021, 05:01:13 PM
Quote from: grumpy_geoff on March 12, 2021, 03:36:45 PM
Bodyguard was originally scheduled for Sun 14-Mar 21:30 and 22:40.  My T4 had 2 timers set for those times, sent by IceTV because the episodes were incorrectly left as premieres, whereas they're repeats.
The programs were then shifted to 22:30 and 23:40 as per IceTV online guide.
Now I have 1 timer set from 21:30 for (an unpadded) 2h:10m for now Flesh And Blood, and Bodyguard S01E05 (ice_timer_id="16686963641106577886" if Daniel Hall wants to investigate).
That combined timer shouldn't exist, as Bodyguard episodes are (now finally) marked as a repeat.

Hi grumpy_geoff,

I have had a look at this one and this timer was marked as being 'manually recorded by user', we have seen this a couple of times now where the Beyonwiz incorrectly marks a show as 'manually recorded' and it then doesn't get removed if the underlying show is removed, which is what happened in this instance. For now you should just cancel the timer and it won't come back.

Hi Daniel,

The log entries show 3 timers being deleted (likely the 2 Bodyguard timers plus an erroneously sent Romulus "Imperio" that wasn't marked as a repeat), but then a new Bodyguard timer created (this has a different ice_timer_id value than the 2 that were removed [they were ice_timer_id=16685836933074829689, ice_timer_id=16685836933074829690])

{3782}<  3765.620> [IceTV] 2021-03-11 09:05:29: Timer deleted OK
{1099}<  3765.623> [IceTV] 2021-03-11 09:05:29: Timer deleted OK
{1100}<  3765.812> [IceTV] 2021-03-11 09:05:29: Timer 'Bodyguard' created OK
{3783}<  3765.880> [IceTV] 2021-03-11 09:05:30: Timer deleted OK
{1099}<  3766.069> [IceTV] 2021-03-11 09:05:30: Timer 'Four Corners' created OK

I find it strange that the "new" Bodyguard timer is of the same duration as the combined now Flesh And Blood (60m) in the original Bodyguard S01E05 spot, plus Bodyguard S01E05 (70m) in its new spot.
Even stranger, that the Wiz decided to do that event merge and create a timer from the outcome.
Yes, call me cynical.
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: prl on March 13, 2021, 11:12:22 AM
Quote from: Daniel Hall at IceTV on March 12, 2021, 05:01:13 PM
we have seen this a couple of times now where the Beyonwiz incorrectly marks a show as 'manually recorded' and it then doesn't get removed if the underlying show is removed, which is what happened in this instance.

Hi, Daniel. Do you have any indication of the circumstances where that can happen (other than when it is intended to happen)? I'd be happy to investigate.

There isn't any explicit "manually recorded" mark on a timer sent from the Beyonwiz. All that happens is that when a manual recording is made on the Beyonwiz, its timer information is sent to IceTV without an IceTV timer id.

ETA: If, for any reason, IceTV sends a timer that has no IceTV timer id field, the response also won't have an IceTV timer id, which may also look to IceTV that a manual timer was set. I know that shouldn't happen, but just trying to cover all bases.
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: csutak40 on March 14, 2021, 02:18:44 PM
Why is this a repeat?

Entertainment Tonight 'Series 40, Episode 134' 10, 2:15pm, Thu, 18 Mar 2021, 15 minutes
The shows before and after are ep 133 & 135

I am also wondering if this is a repeat?


The Late Late Show With James Corden 'Guests: 2021 - Salma Hayek, Owen Wilson, The Weeknd' 10 Shake, 1:00am, Tue, 16 Mar 2021, 60 minutes  It is also on at 4am, which would be a repeat

Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: grumpy_geoff on March 16, 2021, 11:42:18 AM
Four Corners - Tue, Wed, Sat
are all repeats of last night's episode (#7)

Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: GaiO IceTV on March 16, 2021, 12:07:46 PM
Hi grumpy_geoff,
Thanks for your note.  These repeats have been correctly marked now.
Regards Gai
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: aeb001 on March 17, 2021, 07:59:12 AM
@lisa the following are on tonight & marked as repeats in qld guide but havent aired before. i did note other states are airing episodes from later in the series hence why you may have them marked as repeats

Border Security - Australia's Front Line - 'Series 15, Episode 1' - 7HD, 7:30pm, Wed, 17 Mar 2021, 30 minutes - S15E01
Border Security - Australia's Front Line - 'Series 15, Episode 2' - 7HD, 8:00pm, Wed, 17 Mar 2021, 30 minutes - S15E02
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: Lisa on March 17, 2021, 01:08:22 PM
Hi Adrian,

yes...thanks for that. I have removed the R flag from QLD.

cheers, Lisa
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: BazzaG on March 17, 2021, 05:19:46 PM
Melbourne ...

QuoteSeven News Special
'Ivan Milat Buried Secrets'
7HD, 7:00pm, Sun, 21 Mar 2021, 130 minutes
REPEAT

Ivan Milat came to public notice in the worst possible way, when he was convicted of the series of murders of backpackers, whose bodies had been discovered in the Belanglo State Forest. Not everything was revealed, or even known at the time. This episode features new evidence of a cold and murderous heart.

Series, 2021, Australia, English, News, Season 1 Episode 1

The above is *NOT* a REPEAT, nor is it S01E01, rather it's S01E02 as it's Part 2 of "Ivan Milat Buried Secrets", with Part 1 being broadcast last Sunday night.

Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: Lisa on March 17, 2021, 06:19:26 PM
Hi BazzaG,

Thanks for that. The system did not recognise it was a different episode because we didn't name them. I have removed the R flag for next Sunday night.
Hopefully we will have episodes in place tomorrow...at the moment it's not allowing me to do it.
Have to speak with Dan.

Cheers, Lisa
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: aeb001 on March 18, 2021, 09:38:05 AM
Quote from: Lisa on March 17, 2021, 01:08:22 PM
Hi Adrian,

yes...thanks for that. I have removed the R flag from QLD.

cheers, Lisa

Cheers. obviously the same thing will probably happen each week
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: aeb001 on March 18, 2021, 09:42:08 AM
@lisa

the following are repeats of the daily highlights:
Motorsport: Supercars - '2021 - Sandown Highlights - Day 1' - 7mate HD, 3:30pm, Mon, 22 Mar 2021, 60 minutes
Motorsport: Supercars - '2021 - Sandown Highlights - Day 2' - 7mate HD, 4:30pm, Mon, 22 Mar 2021, 60 minutes

repeat of the 7:30pm airing
Deadliest Catch: Dungeon Cove - 'Winter's Wake' - 9Rush Gold Coast, 11:30pm, Mon, 22 Mar 2021, 60 minutes
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: csutak40 on March 18, 2021, 10:00:48 AM
The Gourmet Farmer (SBS) is marked as a repeat.  I have it set to only record first runs, yet they were still all scheduled to record.   I have deleted them all now, just thought I'd let you know.
I've noticed this happening quite a few times, not sure why
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: MD on March 18, 2021, 02:57:45 PM
Hi Judy,

As best we can tell the repeat flag was originally left off but added correctly before airing.  However it seems there is a random bug in keywords when used for series recordings which sometimes, but not always (!), means it misses cancelling a recording when its parameters are changed from 1st airing to repeat.  The bug is now on our to-do list but will be some weeks yet before we can get to it.

Nevertheless my advice would be that keywords are not really meant for setting normal series recordings as the record function on the website or app does that. They are more for subjects of interest, actors names etc etc that may be in any show or series.  Even if it's not airing one just does a search in the TV Guide for its title and the proper series recording can be added with the usual preferences.
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: BazzaG on March 18, 2021, 07:11:16 PM
Australia In Colour
'Series 2 - Australia At Play'
SBS VICELAND HD, 7:30pm, Sat, 20 Mar 2021, 60 minutes


This is a REPEAT (Premier is on Wednesday nights)
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: GaiO IceTV on March 18, 2021, 09:14:13 PM
Thanks for your note BazzaG,
This is a system issue on Dan's list to fix. The repeat flag has been added now.
Cheers Gai
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: grumpy_geoff on March 18, 2021, 11:13:48 PM
Romulus 'Romane' Season 1 Episode 5
SBS VICELAND HD, 9:20pm, Sat, 20 Mar 2021
... is a repeat but it is not annotated as such.
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: GaiO IceTV on March 19, 2021, 08:42:40 AM
Hi grumpy_geoff
Thanks and fixed. As you know this is a system issue Dan is working on. 
Cheers Gai
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: aeb001 on March 21, 2021, 12:08:59 PM
Quote from: aeb001 on March 18, 2021, 09:38:05 AM
Quote from: Lisa on March 17, 2021, 01:08:22 PM
Hi Adrian,

yes...thanks for that. I have removed the R flag from QLD.

cheers, Lisa

Cheers. obviously the same thing will probably happen each week

@lisa as mentioned above the same will happen this week & beyond which it has because QLD is a week behind.

Border Security - Australia's Front Line - 'Lying Brazilian Man / Biosecurity Officers And The Chinese Student In A Hurry' - 7HD, 7:30pm, Wed, 24 Mar 2021, 30 minutes
Border Security - Australia's Front Line - 'Series 15, Episode 4' - 7HD, 8:00pm, Wed, 24 Mar 2021, 30 minutes
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: aeb001 on March 21, 2021, 12:55:35 PM
@Gaio this ones marked as a repeat on multiple guides but i don't beleive it is as it's the next episode in sequence

Penn And Teller: Fool Us - 'P&T In 3D... Glasses' - ABC TV Plus/Kids, 9:15pm, Thu, 25 Mar 2021, 43 minutes - S07E06
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: GaiO IceTV on March 21, 2021, 03:58:10 PM
Hi Adrian,
I agree with you and have marked this as new despite ABC marking as a repeat.
Cheers Gai
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: GaiO IceTV on March 21, 2021, 04:34:47 PM
Hi Adrian,
Repeat flag removed from Border Security in Qld for the coming week. I'll remind Lisa and Tiph to check this issue going forward.
Cheers Gai
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: aeb001 on March 21, 2021, 04:52:44 PM
@lisa

Just an FYI about the following 2 shows being marked as premiers this morning. They were both repeats of what aired in ealy 2020 as will the remainder of both series'

Fishing: International Fishing Series
Australian Fishing Championship
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: BazzaG on March 21, 2021, 06:14:51 PM
QuoteAustralian Scandal
'Love Hurts'
9HD Melbourne, 10:10pm, Tue, 23 Mar 2021, 60 minutes
REPEAT

This is NOT a repeat, since Nine has postponed this show over the last 2 Tuesdays ... so I'm not entirely surprised it's marked as a repeat.

Wonder if Nine postpone it again?

Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: BazzaG on March 23, 2021, 01:24:21 PM
Quote from: BazzaG on March 21, 2021, 06:14:51 PM
Wonder if Nine postpone it again?

While this show is STILL marked as a repeat in the IceTV guide, further changes will need to be made as Nine has killed this show AGAIN...

QuoteNine has yanked plans for Australian Scandal a third time... currently out of schedule.

The retrospective series profiles stories around famous faces including Barnaby Joyce, Geoffrey Edelsten, Richard Pratt, Shane Warne, Christopher Skase, Salim Mehajer, Craig Thomson and Belinda Neal.

Hosted by Leila McKinnon it is understood to have been filmed some time ago.

Nine was due to premiere it earlier this month in a late 10pm slot, bumped twice to tonight. It has not been pulled a third time for a Nine News special, and is also out of schedule next week.

I guess it must be riveting TV......
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: Tiphanee on March 23, 2021, 06:43:35 PM
Hi Bazza -

Many thanks for your note.

It's out of our schedule yet again... will have to keep an eye on it when it pops back in to catch the repeat flag.

Have a lovely evening,

Tiphanee
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: aeb001 on March 23, 2021, 11:49:32 PM
Quote from: aeb001 on March 21, 2021, 04:52:44 PM
@lisa

Just an FYI about the following 2 shows being marked as premiers this morning. They were both repeats of what aired in ealy 2020 as will the remainder of both series'

Fishing: International Fishing Series
Australian Fishing Championship

@lisa these are still marked as premieres

Fishing: International Fishing Series - 'Series 1, Episode 2' - 7mate HD, 9:30am, Sun, 28 Mar 2021, 30 minutes
Australian Fishing Championship - 'AFC XVI Finale' - 7mate HD, 10:00am, Sun, 28 Mar 2021, 60 minutes
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: aeb001 on March 26, 2021, 08:02:06 AM
Quote from: aeb001 on March 23, 2021, 11:49:32 PM
Quote from: aeb001 on March 21, 2021, 04:52:44 PM
@lisa

Just an FYI about the following 2 shows being marked as premiers this morning. They were both repeats of what aired in ealy 2020 as will the remainder of both series'

Fishing: International Fishing Series
Australian Fishing Championship

@lisa these are still marked as premieres

Fishing: International Fishing Series - 'Series 1, Episode 2' - 7mate HD, 9:30am, Sun, 28 Mar 2021, 30 minutes
Australian Fishing Championship - 'AFC XVI Finale' - 7mate HD, 10:00am, Sun, 28 Mar 2021, 60 minutes

@lisa or @tiphanee 4th notification > these 2 are still marked as premieres. They are both repeats of 2020 airings
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: aeb001 on March 26, 2021, 08:08:30 AM
@lisa @tiphanee and this one too

Australian Fishing Championship - 'AFC Barra Ep2' - 7mate HD, 5:30am, Mon, 29 Mar 2021, 30 minutes
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: Tiphanee on March 26, 2021, 08:57:56 AM
Hi Adrian -

Many thanks for your message and I'll have these errors fixed by the end of the day.

My apologies I'm not getting back to you earlier. Our small team had been halved due to being flood impacted and we won't be back to full capacity until mid next week.

As well, going forward to ensure your messages aren't lost in the forum chatter, can you please start a new post with the name of the program and date of airing so we can address them in a timely and systematic manner.

Chat later,

Tiphanee
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: BazzaG on March 26, 2021, 08:13:58 PM
I missed this 1 from my list of recordings ... fortunately tonight I'm watching it "live" ... normally I don't.

Planet America
'Series 2021, Episode 10'
ABC NEWS, 8:03pm, Fri, 26 Mar 2021, 57 minutes
ON NOW REPEAT


Its NOT a REPEAT.
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: MD on March 26, 2021, 08:21:52 PM
Planet America is not in your list of recordings. We will check tomorrow to see if it has previously aired.  Please don't keep using capitals as it is interpreted as shouting by me and my team.
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: BazzaG on March 26, 2021, 08:27:19 PM
YES it is.

Both Planet America (2012) and Planet America Fireside Chat (2020) are in my list of pgms to record.

Even if they weren't the Friday night broadcast is still NOT a repeat.
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: MD on March 26, 2021, 08:34:04 PM
Hmmm - more than one BazzaG username at IceTV, yours with the email address after it.  Nevertheless if you'd realise that I am quite capable of reading small print and that being shouted at via capitals simply makes me angry it may explain my haste in picking the wrong BazzaG.  Stop using them, it's rude.  We will check the data ABC tomorrow.

Enjoy your show.
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: GaiO IceTV on March 27, 2021, 09:09:14 AM
Hi Bazza G,
I'm sorry Planet America was marked a repeat on Friday - I have asked Dan to look into it.  I have marked one of the repeats today as new in case it was missed last night by anyone else. 
Cheers Gai
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: BazzaG on March 27, 2021, 09:18:33 AM
Gai,

I don't need it, but thanks anyway. Please mark it correctly as a repeat.
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: csutak40 on March 28, 2021, 01:15:02 AM
Quote from: BazzaG on March 27, 2021, 09:18:33 AM
Gai,

I don't need it, but thanks anyway. Please mark it correctly as a repeat.
You may not have needed it, but some others may have missed it
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: csutak40 on March 28, 2021, 01:36:19 AM
Are the Bosch episodes in the middle of the night (3 of them, one after the other next Friday) really new episodes?  I am not sure, but surely, if they weren't repeats, they wouldn't be showing them at night?
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: GaiO IceTV on March 28, 2021, 09:22:05 AM
Hi Judy,
Bizarre time I agree but definitely marked as new series premiere! That's SBS!
Cheers Gai
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: aeb001 on March 28, 2021, 01:12:19 PM
Quote from: GaiO IceTV on March 28, 2021, 09:22:05 AM
Hi Judy,
Bizarre time I agree but definitely marked as new series premiere! That's SBS!
Cheers Gai

@gaio Season 6 not Season 2020 thats where you threw people.
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: prl on March 28, 2021, 01:28:55 PM
IMDb shows the three episodes of Bosch on Friday night as having been released on 17 Apr 2020, and that they are part of season 6.

I'm pretty sure that that makes them new, and that using "season 2020" is not incorrect.

However, I think I'd prefer it if IceTV restricted using years as season numbers to sporting events.
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: BazzaG on March 29, 2021, 08:45:32 PM
Media Watch

'Series 2021, Episode 9'
ABC TV HD, 9:23pm, Mon, 29 Mar 2021, 16 minutes

REPEAT

Triple M shockers; Jeremy Cordeaux axed; ACA - not the full story; Morrow's mistake. Presented by Paul Barry.
Series, 2021, Australia, English, Current Affairs, Season 2021 Episode 9



Not a repeat.
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: BazzaG on March 29, 2021, 08:54:32 PM
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Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: BazzaG on March 30, 2021, 10:30:52 AM
Four Corners

'Aung San Suu Kyi - The Rise And Fall Of An Icon'
ABC TV HD, 10:00am, Tue, 30 Mar 2021, 49 minutes

ON NOW

In February, Myanmar's military launched a coup, arresting political leader Aung San Suu Kyi. In this provocative portrait, some of those who once publicly supported her say she lost her credibility during her time in power.
Series, 2021, Australia, English, Current Affairs, Documentary, Season 2021 Episode 9

Recording Options
This show is currently being recorded on device Beyonwiz U4. This show is part of a series recording.


This is not new but a repeat of last nights broadcast.

Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: BazzaG on March 30, 2021, 12:30:40 PM
Bluey
'Easter'
ABC TV Plus/Kids, 8:01am, Sun, 4 Apr 2021, 9 minutes

REPEAT

Bingo is convinced the Easter Bunny has forgotten them like last year, until Bluey finds a series of clues that leads them on an Easter egg treasure hunt.

Series, 2019, Australia, English, Drama, Short Film, Season 2 Episode 47
Recording Options
This show is part of a series recording but will not be recorded. (Repeat showing but series set for first runs only.) Record this episode.


While this episode is currently listed in the ABC online guide as a repeat ... it is not a repeat.

The "Easter" episode is also not episode S02E47 as per the ABC guide, rather it's: S02E52 (the final "new" episode of season 2).

The same episode is also to broadcast @ 6:21pm which would be a repeat.

IceTV currently has the same episode listed in guide @ 6:53pm ... this is not listed in the ABC online guide.

Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: grumpy_geoff on March 30, 2021, 12:41:44 PM
Quote from: BazzaG on March 30, 2021, 10:30:52 AM
Four Corners
'Aung San Suu Kyi - The Rise And Fall Of An Icon'
ABC TV HD, 10:00am, Tue, 30 Mar 2021, 49 minutes

This is not new but a repeat of last nights broadcast.

Last night's episode "Aung San Suu Kyi - The Rise And Fall Of An Icon" (E09) was marked as a repeat.
I guess this caters for those that had missed getting a scheduled timer due to the tagging error.
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: BazzaG on March 30, 2021, 01:01:57 PM
Quote from: grumpy_geoff on March 30, 2021, 12:41:44 PM
Last night's episode "Aung San Suu Kyi - The Rise And Fall Of An Icon" (E09) was marked as a repeat.
I guess this caters for those that had missed getting a scheduled timer due to the tagging error.

If that was the case for me (Melbourne) then last nights episode would not have recorded ... but it did.
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: GaiO IceTV on March 30, 2021, 01:12:06 PM
Hi BazzaG,
This was marked new deliberately due to the previous evening being incorrectly marked repeat. I believe some software updates may have caused  some errant repeat flags. Apologies and thanks again for your patience through this process.
Cheers Gai
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: GaiO IceTV on March 30, 2021, 01:35:33 PM
Hi BazzaG
Re BLUEY - I have removed the repeat flag from the 8:01 am showing of this episode ABC Plus/Kids, even though ABC have marked as a repeat.  As you noted it is repeated again at 18:21.  ABC TV do have it repeated again at 18:53 as have IceTV.
Cheers Gai
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: BazzaG on March 30, 2021, 01:46:33 PM
Quote from: GaiO IceTV on March 30, 2021, 01:35:33 PM
Hi BazzaG
ABC TV do have it repeated again at 18:53 as have IceTV.

Not according to what I see ... refer to the attached screen shot.

Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: GaiO IceTV on March 30, 2021, 02:14:24 PM
Hi BazzaG,
The 6.53pm show is on ABC TV  (or ABC1 to some) as mentioned in my post - not ABC Plus/Kids. Maybe we can move on from this one now.
Cheers Gai
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: BazzaG on March 30, 2021, 02:17:28 PM
Oops, apologies I stand corrected.

I guess that since Bluey is so popular it's getting a 1 episode premier on their main channel.

In any event it's still a repeat.
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: Trial_Master on March 31, 2021, 04:51:57 PM
Bold & the Beautiful this Friday 16:30 is marked as Repeat in Brisbane guide.
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: Lisa on March 31, 2021, 05:25:01 PM
Hi Trial Master,

thankyou for your note.
From what I can ascertain Bold & Beautiful is a Repeat this Friday as it is Good Friday.....they are showing Ep 8444....we are up to 8482 which is being aired on Thursday.

cheers, Lisa
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: Trial_Master on March 31, 2021, 09:39:20 PM
Thanks Lisa. Ten's website didn't show repeat so I assumed it was the new database issue. Thanks for clarifying.
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: BazzaG on April 02, 2021, 07:41:32 AM
The Durrells is marked as repeat in the IceTV guide:

The Durrells
'Episode 1 - The Durrells Arrive in Corfu'
ABC TV HD, 7:32pm, Sat, 3 Apr 2021, 49 minutes

REPEAT

Series, 2016, United Kingdom, English, Drama, Season 1 Episode 1


but it's not marked as such in the ABC guide and I believe I've seen promo's for the show as being new.

PS. For those interested you can binge all 4 seasons, but not the special, on iView.
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: GaiO IceTV on April 02, 2021, 08:52:22 AM
Hi BazzaG
The Durrells is definitely not a new series.  It was first scheduled in our system in August 2016 and has been repeated more than once since.  You may well have seen a promo but I assure it was simply advertising it was on not as new.  Also beware a network will mark a show as new simply because it is new on their network!
Have a lovely Easter holiday
Cheers Gai
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: BazzaG on April 02, 2021, 10:32:03 AM
Fair enough. Just another example of an ABC stuff up in their EPG ... they have SO many mistakes with the season and/or episode numbers, in particular, of numerous shows its bordering on the ridiculous.

Some current examples, Grand Designs, Peppa Pig, QI, Bluey, and so on and so forth.

Thanks for verifying, given the age of the show I wasn't totally sure but having said that, the only FTA TV that we watch is almost just the ABC; given the crap that 7, 9 & 10 broadcast (IOHO), and this show isn't something that I remember showing from the past.

Cheers
Happy Easter

Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: prl on April 02, 2021, 11:05:18 AM
The ABC is showing Season 1 of The Durrells. We've definitely recorded and watched it in the past. I can't remember how many seasons of it have been shown, but I think it's at least two.
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: grumpy_geoff on April 02, 2021, 11:12:39 AM
According to Wikipedia, The Durrells aired on the Seven Network in 2016.
https://www.news.com.au/entertainment/tv/seven-takes-punt-that-the-durrells-can-recreate-downton-abbeys-huge-success/news-story/3718220c8c034a0b9a4d964445fc3243
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: Trial_Master on April 02, 2021, 12:28:53 PM
I've never heard of The Durrells so I've set up to record this Saturday. Episode 1 is on again next Monday, I recall there was a way to filter multiple repeats by time in the past, is there anyway to stop multiple repeat timers generating now?
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: prl on April 02, 2021, 12:46:32 PM
Quote from: Trial_Master on April 02, 2021, 12:28:53 PMis there anyway to stop multiple repeat timers generating now?

Not that I know of.
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: prl on April 02, 2021, 12:47:55 PM
Quote from: csutak40 on March 28, 2021, 01:36:19 AM
Are the Bosch episodes in the middle of the night (3 of them, one after the other next Friday) really new episodes?  I am not sure, but surely, if they weren't repeats, they wouldn't be showing them at night?

It looks like the ABC has dropped those showings of Bosch at the last moment.
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: grumpy_geoff on April 02, 2021, 01:27:24 PM
Quote from: Trial_Master on April 02, 2021, 12:28:53 PM
I've never heard of The Durrells so I've set up to record this Saturday. Episode 1 is on again next Monday, I recall there was a way to filter multiple repeats by time in the past, is there anyway to stop multiple repeat timers generating now?

As far as I know, not with IceTV scheduled recordings. 
However you can set up an AutoTimer definition and restrict it via either of -
Job done.
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: grumpy_geoff on April 02, 2021, 01:35:08 PM
Quote from: prl on April 02, 2021, 12:47:55 PM
Quote from: csutak40 on March 28, 2021, 01:36:19 AM
Are the Bosch episodes in the middle of the night (3 of them, one after the other next Friday) really new episodes?  I am not sure, but surely, if they weren't repeats, they wouldn't be showing them at night?

It looks like the ABC has dropped those showings of Bosch at the last moment.

It's SBS not ABC, and they were shown this morning (at least in the "wild west").
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: Trial_Master on April 02, 2021, 01:38:22 PM
Quote from: grumpy_geoff on April 02, 2021, 01:27:24 PM
However you can set up an AutoTimer definition

Thanks, good to know.
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: prl on April 02, 2021, 01:40:17 PM
Yes, sorry about that. My error. Bosch recorded for me early this morning.
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: MD on April 02, 2021, 02:15:25 PM
There is no way yet to stop repeats recording more than once but our next project, after this infernal Guide Database system up-date is over, is exactly that plus some other useful related add-ons.

We did have a "This time only" but it was hopeless as channels change airtime and the setting gets "orphaned".
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: Trial_Master on April 02, 2021, 02:27:07 PM
Thanks for the info MD
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: Trial_Master on April 02, 2021, 03:40:10 PM
ABC News on Saturday at midday is getting detected in my ABC News evening bulletin timer. The Sunday midday bulletin is called ABC News At Noon.
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: MD on April 02, 2021, 04:29:11 PM
Can you re-post this under a different title so the guide team see it for what it is please, as it's not a repeat/double up problem.
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: Trial_Master on April 02, 2021, 05:09:24 PM
No probs
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: BazzaG on April 04, 2021, 07:07:20 PM
Fringe Nation: Extremists In America
'America's Modern Militias'
SBS VICELAND HD, 1:00am, Sat, 10 Apr 2021, 50 minutes
Gianna Toboni explores the new generation of modern militias, the tactics and ideologies that define them, and the likelihood of them going to war with the government.
Series, United States, English, Documentary, Real Life, Season 1 Episode 1


This is a repeat as indicated in the SBS online guide ... as is the 2nd episode which is broadcasting immediately afterwards ... I'm guessing that this episode is correctly marked as a repeat since I don't have a recording for it.

Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: GaiO IceTV on April 05, 2021, 07:50:49 AM
Hi BazzaG,
Episode 1 of Fringe Nation had no previous air date in our database so was therefore marked as a new show.  However, given that there are air dates for episodes 2-4 I am assuming there has been an error somewhere and have marked it as a repeat now.
Cheers Gai
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: BazzaG on April 05, 2021, 08:11:58 AM
I have recordings of all 4 episodes, mind you SBS is broadcasting them out of order; compared to ViceLand themselves.

Now, I believe I might know why you don't have the "first" episode listed in your DB ... when this series was originally broadcast SBS used a different name for the "first" episode. I don't remember what the name was since I renamed this episode as per the real episode name used by ViceLand.

It appears that for the repeat broadcast SBS is using the correct names for all 4 episodes. They are, however, broadcasting what is really episode 2 as episode 1.

Also, all 4 episodes are available to stream here:

https://www.sbs.com.au/ondemand/program/fringe-nation-extremists-in-america

Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: BazzaG on April 07, 2021, 10:53:49 AM
Harrow
'Ab Initio'
ABC TV HD, 8:30pm, Sun, 11 Apr 2021, 53 minutes

REPEAT

Coping with a death that strikes close to home by focusing on work, Harrow is stunned to discover a connection between this death and another deceased man on his autopsy table.
Series, 2019, Australia, English, Drama, Crime, Season 2 Episode 5


Marked as a repeat, but it's not.
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: GaiO IceTV on April 07, 2021, 12:35:25 PM
Thanks BazzaG,
This has been corrected.  There has been a few errant repeat flags showing up this week.  I'll need Dan to take a look.
Cheers Gai
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: prl on April 07, 2021, 12:51:58 PM
Thanks, Gai. It's now showing correctly in the ACT IceGuide.
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: BazzaG on April 15, 2021, 11:51:38 PM
Region: Melbourne

One Plus One
'Adam Hills'

ABC NEWS, 6:02am, Sat, 17 Apr 2021, 29 minutes

Series, 2021, Australia, English, Current Affairs, Season 2021 Episode 8


Also:

ABC NEWS, 7:30pm, Sat, 17 Apr 2021, 30 minutes

Both should be listed as a repeat, not new.
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: GaiO IceTV on April 16, 2021, 07:43:04 AM
Hi BazzaG
Thanks for your note. This episode of One Plus One has been corrected on ABC News.
Cheers Gai
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: BazzaG on April 16, 2021, 08:38:45 AM
Thankyou Gai.

Interesting though ... only 1 of the 2 recordings has been deleted, despite the guide now showing that it's a repeat:

One Plus One
'Adam Hills'
ABC NEWS, 6:02am, Sat, 17 Apr 2021, 29 minutes

REPEAT

Comedian Adam Hills is a household name on both sides of the world, known for hosting TV shows in both Australia and the UK. He chats to Kurt Fearnley about comedy, COVID, and finding community in disability.
Series, 2021, Australia, English, Current Affairs, Season 2021 Episode 8


Oh well, I deleted the timer ......

Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: BazzaG on April 24, 2021, 09:03:48 PM
Australian Story
'Forever Young'
ABC TV HD, 8:02pm, Mon, 26 Apr 2021, 30 minutes

REPEAT

17-year-old Ursula Barwick vanished without a trace in 1987, leaving her family in limbo for three decades. When the truth was finally revealed it raised serious questions about the police investigation.
Series, Australia, English, Documentary, Biography, Season 2019 Episode 32


Is not a repeat.

Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: GaiO IceTV on April 25, 2021, 07:31:03 AM
Hi BazzaG
Thanks for your note.  Repeat flag has been removed from this show.
Cheers Gai
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: IanL-S on April 25, 2021, 10:39:32 AM
Post event report: The World's Most Scenic Railway Journeys SBS HD (Melborune) 24-04-21; This programe had repeat flage (at least that was how it came through on my Topfield 7100+) but was a first showing (at least in Melbourne).

Ian
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: GaiO IceTV on April 25, 2021, 12:17:54 PM
Hi IanL-S,
Thank you for your note and apologies for this error.  I have passed the issue onto Dan to check why this occurred but of course that won't change the result.  Next week's episode Norway is definitely marked correctly as new.
Cheers Gai
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: BazzaG on April 27, 2021, 08:23:47 PM
Back Roads
'The Mallee, Vic'

ABC TV HD, 1:00pm, Fri, 30 Apr 2021, 30 minutes

Heather Ewart discovers the Mallee spirit, where locals know how to roll up their sleeves and get things done. The Mallee people know the importance of investing in their children and the future to have a vibrant community.
Series, 2021, Australia, English, Documentary, Real Life, Society & Culture, Season 7 Episode 13


This is a repeat of Thursday's night premier episode.

Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: aeb001 on April 27, 2021, 10:03:13 PM
Quote from: Tiphanee on March 26, 2021, 08:57:56 AM
Hi Adrian -

.......

As well, going forward to ensure your messages aren't lost in the forum chatter, can you please start a new post with the name of the program and date of airing so we can address them in a timely and systematic manner.

Chat later,

Tiphanee

@tiphanee I thought this thread was getting closed off but everyone still seems to be using it?
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups - Back Roads
Post by: GaiO IceTV on April 28, 2021, 07:52:06 AM
Hi BazzaG
Thanks for your note. Back Roads episode The Mallee Vic on Friday 30/4 at 1.00pm has been marked a repeat.
Cheers Gai
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: BazzaG on April 28, 2021, 07:35:01 PM
Region: Melbourne

The Vaccine
'India Special'

ABC TV HD, 11:19pm, Fri, 30 Apr 2021, 17 minutes

In a special edition of The Vaccine we look at the crisis in India as COVID cases spiral out of control with the biggest daily number of infections and the health system struggling to cope, with extreme shortages of oxygen.
Series, 2021, Australia, English, News, Season 2021 Episode 11


This is a repeat the had its premier broadcast about 3.5 hours earlier on the ABC News channel.

Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: GaiO IceTV on April 28, 2021, 07:52:16 PM
Hi BazzaG,
Thanks for your note, appreciate you bringing this to our attention. Dan is looking at this issue at the moment as it seems to be a system bug.  Repeat flag has been added now.
Cheers Gai
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: BazzaG on April 28, 2021, 07:56:05 PM
TVM...
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: MD on April 28, 2021, 08:05:12 PM
So here's our problems - most of our subscribers have ABC News disabled as they have no interest in hourly rolling news editions but the ABC decide to air some shows on both channels but not simultaneously. Should we leave it as a first run on the 2/20/21 channels or cause the non-ABC News subscribers to have to fiddle with the default IceTV recording options to record it as a repeat?  Of course your hard choices, as you have have both enabled, would be pressing delete for a few seconds on the PVR or "Remove Episode" on your IceTV My Week app or website for a similar few seconds. This issue of unsynchronised ABC News v ABC 2/20/21 will continue and my opinions is that for the majority of our subscribers any new show should remain first runs on both, albeit incorrect at a purist level.
Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: BazzaG on April 29, 2021, 12:00:12 AM
Well these shows have been correctly marked in the IceTV EPG in the past.

In this example, "The Vaccine" has been marked as a repeat for the later broadcast on ABC TV on previous Friday nights.

Title: Re: Repeats and double ups
Post by: MD on April 29, 2021, 07:32:29 AM
IMHO, if the show/series is new and the ABC airs them on two channels (the ABC News is an excellent example) then the shows should not be marked as a repeat on the one that airs later, the user should use our select channel option when setting the recording instead of "All Channels" so as to filter out the second airing.  Obviously and subsequent airings of the show will be marked repeat.

I'll discus this with "The Team".