Nine has started advertising the switch of its network services from Win to Southern Cross Austereo. The switch date is July 1. There's a web page for the switch at http://www.nineon5.com.au/ (http://www.nineon5.com.au/).
Southern Cross won't carry 9HD and 9Life initially, because they need new gear to be installed. From the NineOn5 FAQ (http://www.nineon5.com.au/#!faq/cee5): "9HD will be broadcast by mid-August at the latest"; "SCA is expecting that it will be broadcasting 9Life by mid-August."
Peter, do you know will happen with the WIN and SCA triples?
Quote from: Dave at IceTV on June 23, 2016, 01:00:57 PM
Peter, do you know will happen with the WIN and SCA triples?
The first thing I'll know will be when I do a scan on 1 July, unfortunately.
According to this press release (http://images.tenplay.com.au/~/media/Corporate%20Site%20Media/Files/Media%20Releases/2016/TEN%20And%20WIN%20Network%20Announce%20New%20Program%20Supply%20Agreement.pdf) on 23 May, the switchover of Ten's services to Win will also be on 1 July. However, while I've seen ads for the Nine changeover in the Canberra Times and in ads on Nine, I haven't seen anything about it for the Ten switchover.
The Ten press release gives a marketing contact and a media contact, but, of course, no technical contact.
Presumably Ten will be taking over the old Win LCN range, as Nine is taking over the old SC Ten LCN range.
SCA have announced today that they will be carrying 9HD from 1st July. 9Life will have to wait until mid-August though.
http://www.tvtonight.com.au/2016/06/9hd-confirmed-for-july-1st-launch-on-southern-cross.html (http://www.tvtonight.com.au/2016/06/9hd-confirmed-for-july-1st-launch-on-southern-cross.html)
One less rescan, then :)
Quote from: prl on June 23, 2016, 01:22:41 PM
Presumably Ten will be taking over the old Win LCN range, as Nine is taking over the old SC Ten LCN range.
Or to put that a different way, SCA and WIN will keep their current LCN ranges.
Still not sure what is happening with Nine programming in TAS. It is not a simple "WIN and SCA are swapping Nine and Ten" in TAS as TDT currently broadcast Ten's channels in TAS and SCA will continue to broadcast Seven's channels.
WIN say they will be broadcasting Ten's channels in TAS. So what happens to Nine's programs in TAS... and what will TDT be broadcasting?
SCA could end up with Nine and Ten affiliations. There are existing multi-affiliations already.
- WIN currently broadcasts Seven's, Nine's and Ten's channels in the 'Griffith / Murrumbidgee Irrigation Area' region.
- Southern Cross currently broadcasts Seven's, Nine's and Ten's channels in the Spencer Gulf, Eyre Peninsula (Port Augusta) and Broken Hill regions.
Aren't there oddball affiliation arrangements in WA and NT, too?
Quote from: prl on June 23, 2016, 05:10:17 PM
Aren't there oddball affiliation arrangements in WA and NT, too?
Not that I can see but QLD's Gold Coast and Sunshine Coast are odd.
Sunshine Coast has 2 sets of Seven's channels both from Seven(!) but on different LCNs (in ranges with 6s and 7s).
Gold Coast has 2 of everything. It has retransmitted Brisbane channels on Brisbane LCNs and local Gold Coast channels on 'regional' LCNs.
Ten seems to like small single-region broadcasters like MDT in Mildura, TDT in TAS, DDT in Darwin and West TV in Regional WA and CDT in the central Oz. Prime has remote affiliates like GWN in WA and Imparja in VAST supported areas. Then there's 2 indigenous broadcasters; Goolari and Larrakia in central Oz, that have their own content.
The Sunshine Coast's sets of sevens are broadcast from the same place (The beautifully named "Bald Knob", somewhere up near Maleny), but they are different transmitters.
The 6's are called Sunshine Coast North and deliver the true Regional news progs etc.
The 7's are called Sunshine Coast South, and re-transmit Brisbane's 7's. This covers from about where we are in Sippy Downs (near Buderim and Maroochydore), to the South, covering a lot of Brisbane's Northern Suburbs, as well as Caloundra and other southern parts of the Sunshine Coast.
There is the complication of further north in Nambour, which has a transmitter (Dulong, I think), cuz Nambour is a difficult area for reception (in a valley, sort of).
Quote from: Dave at IceTV on June 23, 2016, 04:42:48 PM
Quote from: prl on June 23, 2016, 01:22:41 PM
Presumably Ten will be taking over the old Win LCN range, as Nine is taking over the old SC Ten LCN range.
Or to put that a different way, SCA and WIN will keep their current LCN ranges.
...
There was an article (http://www.canberratimes.com.au/entertainment/tv-and-radio/news-and-current-affairs/what-act-viewers-need-to-know-about-the-big-tv-switch-20160625-gprspl.html) about the switch in today's Canberra Sunday Times with more detail than has previously been available (not that that's saying much). The print version of the article lists the new LCN assignments, but the online version doesn't. ::)
The new LCNs are:
5 Nine
50 9HD
52 9Gem
53 9GO!
54 9Life
56 Aspire
8 WIN (Ten)
80 WIN HD
81 One
82 Eleven
84 TVSN
85 GOLD
Thanks Peter.
The online version that you linked to does include the new LCNs for each channel (in the text). I assume the print version must have also had a nice easy to understand table or list of the new LCN/Channel assignments.
Quote from: Dave at IceTV on June 28, 2016, 01:14:26 PM
Thanks Peter.
The online version that you linked to does include the new LCNs for each channel (in the text). I assume the print version must have also had a nice easy to understand table or list of the new LCN/Channel assignments.
No problem.
Yes for the table in the print version. I thought the text version of the LCN assignments looked a bit muddled, though I didn't check it against the table.
When will Tassie have the epg guide for wintv which is still missing and also TDT seems we'll get channel Nine now but no info for both.
Worth noting that I needed to clear service list before rescanning channels on Topfield 2400, otherwise the LCN's get all messed up.
It will may also be necessary to do a manual scan with "clear services" on Beyonwiz T series boxes. I'll post more when I've tested it.
In the short term, channel picons on the T series will also be messed up in affected areas.
Quote from: Dave at IceTV on June 23, 2016, 01:00:57 PM
Peter, do you know will happen with the WIN and SCA triples?
In the ACT, it looks like the Nine channels have take over the old Ten triples on SCA, and the Ten channels have taken over the old Nine/Win channels on Win. I'm not sure what the mapping is.
I'll post a list of the new triples after I've done some rescans.
When will the epg data be correct in tassie? ATM nine is on Ten still and Ten on Nine and alot are just blank.
Hi there Andomoose55 -
We are currently in the process of changing everything over. As you can appreciate it is quite a big task to undertake as it affects Tasmania and all regional centres in Australia and is not just a simple touch of a button. Once the data is all transferred across to the correct channel numbers by the technical team, the guide team will then undertake checks for Friday and then continue on with the rest of the week.
I appreciate your patience.
Kind regards,
Tiphanee
Firday isn't right anyway because the LCN's are wrong alot of the channels are blank. You still have Win as Nine and TDT as Ten
That's correct as Tasmania hasn't been reviewed as yet. As I said, it is a huge task to undertake and I really would appreciate your patience and understanding.
Kindest regards,
Tiphanee
Quote from: Andomoose55 on July 01, 2016, 11:48:33 AM
When will the epg data be correct in tassie? ATM nine is on Ten still and Ten on Nine and alot are just blank.
The channel numbers and background information has been updated for the Win channels (WIN, WINHD, ONE and ELEVEN), however as TDT only came to a deal late yesterday we do not have the details for those channels as yet, we are working to get those now. The guide data for these channels will be updated and checked this afternoon.
Waiting for Wide Bay to update. Here is the channel list if that helps.
5 Nine Wide Bay
8 WIN Wide Bay (Ten)
50 9HD Wide Bay
51 Nine Wide Bay
52 9Gem
53 9Go!
54 9Life (coming soon)
55 TBA
56 Aspire
80 WIN Wide Bay HD (Ten)
81 ONE Wide Bay
82 11 Wide Bay
83 WIN Network (no channel)
84 TVSN
85 GOLD
86 ONE Wide Bay
88 WIN Wide Bay
Quote from: A_G on July 01, 2016, 12:34:50 PM
Waiting for Wide Bay to update. Here is the channel list if that helps.
5 Nine Wide Bay
8 WIN Wide Bay (Ten)
50 9HD Wide Bay
51 Nine Wide Bay
52 9Gem
53 9Go!
54 9Life (coming soon)
55 TBA
56 Aspire
80 WIN Wide Bay HD (Ten)
81 ONE Wide Bay
82 11 Wide Bay
83 WIN Network (no channel)
84 TVSN
85 GOLD
86 ONE Wide Bay
88 WIN Wide Bay
Just finalising the technical details now. Should be up and running in the next half hour or so, with the guide data checked later today.
Hi, Daniel.
As I mentioned in my PM, after a manual scan with "clear channel and an IceTV disable/enable/fetch, I'm not seeing any IceTV EPG data for the Nine-branded channels (9HD Canberra, Nine Canberra, 9Gem, 9Go!, 9Life) in the ACT/Canberra IceGuide.
Since the switch, the text "Nine Canberra" (a "new" channel) doesn't fit the available width of the channel name column in the My Week, and wraps around to cross the hairline that separates entries in My Week. Its generic name, "SC Nine," still fits the channel name column in "Coming Soon".
Not urgent, just a bit messy. :)
Hehe, both of these are now fixed.
QLD Regional has now had the changes applied, the guide data is still being checked.
Quote from: Daniel Hall at IceTV on July 01, 2016, 01:54:43 PM
Hehe, both of these are now fixed.
Thanks, Daniel.
I can confirm that. The "My Week" layout problem just needed me to do a page reload. The EPG/timers problem for the Nine channels needed me to reschedule the missed Nine network timers, then do an IceTV disable/enable/fetch
BTW: fantastic job Daniel, and all the other IceFolk involved. :) 8)
Where the Win One epg data for Saturday onwards?? Do we know what 64 is going to be??
Any idea when WA regional will be updated/fixed? I've just renewed my subscription and none of the new regional 9 channels (now all channel 10 channels) are showing anything on the guide.
Cheers
Quote from: kay67kay on July 01, 2016, 06:47:20 PM
Any idea when WA regional will be updated/fixed? I've just renewed my subscription and none of the new regional 9 channels (now all channel 10 channels) are showing anything on the guide.
Cheers
Sorry about the delays on this one, we have all the channel information for the WIN channels and now once again broadcasting Nine channels. The guide will be checked throughout the afternoon.
Howdy. Can't get epg for win wagga hd (80). My account is set for WIN HD 80 & is ticked. I am receiving the broadcast (1920x1080i)...what have I done this time? :-). All other WIN epg ok.
Quote from: Dome97 on July 04, 2016, 07:09:16 PM
Howdy. Can't get epg for win wagga hd (80). My account is set for WIN HD 80 & is ticked. I am receiving the broadcast (1920x1080i)...what have I done this time? :-). All other WIN epg ok.
Which recorder do you have?
In Esperance WA we need the two channels below added asap.
ONE - 82
ELEVEN - 83
All the rest seem OK.
Thanks
Quote from: Dave at IceTV on July 04, 2016, 07:52:33 PM
Quote from: Dome97 on July 04, 2016, 07:09:16 PM
Howdy. Can't get epg for win wagga hd (80). My account is set for WIN HD 80 & is ticked. I am receiving the broadcast (1920x1080i)...what have I done this time? :-). All other WIN epg ok.
Which recorder do you have?
Wiz T2 & T3. Neither getting WIN HD epg.
Win HD in southern NSW is now fixed.
Quote from: fitzmooney on July 05, 2016, 12:55:32 AM
In Esperance WA we need the two channels below added asap.
ONE - 82
ELEVEN - 83
All the rest seem OK.
Thanks
Are these the channel numbers that show up after a full rescan?
WIN have advised they should be on 82 for Eleven and 81 & 86 for One in regional WA.
Quote from: Daniel Hall at IceTV on July 05, 2016, 01:33:54 PM
Quote from: fitzmooney on July 05, 2016, 12:55:32 AM
In Esperance WA we need the two channels below added asap.
ONE - 82
ELEVEN - 83
All the rest seem OK.
Thanks
Are these the channel numbers that show up after a full rescan?
WIN have advised they should be on 82 for Eleven and 81 & 86 for One in regional WA.
fitzmooney,
To do a full auto channel search on your Humax follow the steps here:
http://support.icetv.com.au/entries/98879458-How-do-I-update-all-the-channels-on-my-Humax
If the above link does not do anything right-click on the link and select 'Open in new tab' or 'Open in new window' etc.
Quote from: Dome97 on July 05, 2016, 02:24:21 PM
Quote from: Daniel Hall at IceTV on July 05, 2016, 01:30:29 PM
Win HD in southern NSW is now fixed.
Thank you, Dave.
You mean thank you Daniel as it was Daniel who fixed the problem.
Quote from: Dave at IceTV on July 05, 2016, 04:00:45 PM
Quote from: Dome97 on July 05, 2016, 02:24:21 PM
Quote from: Daniel Hall at IceTV on July 05, 2016, 01:30:29 PM
Win HD in southern NSW is now fixed.
Thank you, Dave.
You mean thank you Daniel as it was Daniel who fixed the problem.
Sorry. I was thinking in 3D. Thank you, Dan. Thank you Dave. Dom ???.
Hi Dave,
I have done another scan and One is 81 and Eleven is 82.
No programs showing for One on the EPG at the moment.
Everything else looks OK.
I'm getting 'No matching service' emails for Wagga Prime. My account is set for Prime southern/60...is that correct or not, please? I am getting the epg for 6,60,61 etc.
Cheers, Dom.
If you have a Beyonwiz T series, you can also get "No matching service" errors for timer conflicts (don't ask ::)), i.e. when you have timers for programs on more broadcasters than your box has tuners for.
It may be worth a check to see if that could be the cause.
But the error can also reflect a real mismatch between the service/channel selection information in the timer and the channel information in the T series box.
I had a strange recording of "The Americans" made on 9Gem 23:55 Tue 05 Jul, (IceTV scheduled time 00:00 Wed 6 Jul).
The problems were:
- The recording shows as having been recorded from 9Gem, when the show is on One.
- The recording title was "The Americans", but the synopsis was for "Monarch of the Glen": "Stella is desperate to hold on to her position at Glenbogle...", unless there's another show that uses the same made-up name of a Scots manor.
- The recording contents seemed to be from an "infotainment" channel (going on and on at tedious length about some kind of miraculous paint roller; not just a normal ad).
- The current 9Gen triple is the same as the previous One triple: 320C:0x0807:0x0827.
The last episode of The Americans that we recorded was "Do Mail Robots Dream of Electric Sheep?". Coincidentally, I still have an unrefreshed MyShows page that says the IceTV set a timer to record the following episode, "Stingers" on One at 00:00 Wed 6 Jul.
The recording is well-separated in time from the changeover. Perhaps a timer on the T4 didn't get updated when I rescanned and did the disable/enable/fetch?
Anyway, we'll just have to go to Tenplay to watch it.
Quote from: Dome97 on July 07, 2016, 04:30:48 PM
I'm getting 'No matching service' emails for Wagga Prime. My account is set for Prime southern/60...is that correct or not, please? I am getting the epg for 6,60,61 etc.
Cheers, Dom.
Hi Dom,
6, 60 or 61 are okay. But for Wagga you should be using Prime Northern. It is more to do with what shows Prime broadcasts in your area than where Wagga is located in the NSW Regional Southern area.
Quote from: prl on July 07, 2016, 05:20:48 PM
I had a strange recording of "The Americans" made on 9Gem 23:55 Tue 05 Jul, (IceTV scheduled time 00:00 Wed 6 Jul).
...
I had similar problems with recordings of Legends (again what should have been on One was recorded from Gem) and Sleepy Hollow (this time Go! and Eleven were exchanged).
The next recording from the new SCA channels (Legends on One, 23:30 Sat 9 Jul) is set to record tfrom the correct service, so it looks like the problem is restricted to timers on the new SCA services that already existed when I rescanned on 1 Jul.
The Canberra Times is reporting (http://www.canberratimes.com.au/act-news/canberra-to-get-its-freetoair-feed-of-junk-tv-as-9life-channel-restored-20160707-gq12o1.html) that SCA will start transmitting 9Life on 17 July.
QuoteSouthern Cross Austereo says the lifestyle and reality channel 9Life will be back on the air in the TV markets of Canberra, Wollongong, southern NSW, regional Victoria and regional Queensland from 6am on Sunday, July 17.
Hi prl -
Yes saw the 9Life news this morning on tvtonight. Glad to hear it :)
Cheers,
Tiphanee
Quote from: prl on July 07, 2016, 04:47:02 PM
If you have a Beyonwiz T series, you can also get "No matching service" errors for timer conflicts (don't ask ::)), i.e. when you have timers for programs on more broadcasters than your box has tuners for.
It may be worth a check to see if that could be the cause.
But the error can also reflect a real mismatch between the service/channel selection information in the timer and the channel information in the T series box.
Thanks. I use the T3 for 7,9 & 10 & the T2 for 2 & SBS (Both have added usb tuner). Hopefully that should cover me? The 'North' fix worked.
Cheers, Do.
Quote from: Dave at IceTV on July 07, 2016, 05:40:17 PM
Quote from: Dome97 on July 07, 2016, 04:30:48 PM
I'm getting 'No matching service' emails for Wagga Prime. My account is set for Prime southern/60...is that correct or not, please? I am getting the epg for 6,60,61 etc.
Cheers, Dom.
Hi Dom,
6, 60 or 61 are okay. But for Wagga you should be using Prime Northern. It is more to do with what shows Prime broadcasts in your area than where Wagga is located in the NSW Regional Southern area.
Ta. The 'north' fix worked. Don't know how or why I changed it since Prime was not affected by the recent changover.
Cheers, Dom.
Hi, apparently 9Life is meant to be on channel 54 in Qld regional as of this morning at 6am. Is that confirmed? I can't set it up on our account as that channel doesn't show up in the list. Recordings are still failing set to "All", is there anything I need to do to sort this on our T4? Thanks
9 Life has definitely started broadcasting content in the ACT.
You may need to do a new service scan so that the T4 knows that the service is active.
Ian
I'm not sure how it was elsewhere, but in the ACT, 9 Life's channel was there from the switch-over on 1 Jul, but it just showed a channel "coming soon" splash screen. I didn't need to re-scan after 1 Jul to get 9 Life broadcasts when they actually started transmitting program material today.
Just got home after a weekend away and channel 54 is broadcasting as 9life. In the Ice account settings, 9life cant be assigned to lcn 54 as it isnt in the list, does this need to be changed at Ice's end to work for recording?
OK, have rescanned the channels, disabled, re-enabled and re-fetched the ice guide etc from the T4 and still can't map 9life successfully. There is no LCN 54 in the list for 9life, and no other version of the life channel that can be assigned. Channel 54 has been working for some time, as PRL says above with the log and "Coming Soon". It has been broadcasting content since yesterday but we can't set up recordings via Ice TV app or website at the moment.
Quote from: eafywan on July 17, 2016, 07:38:37 PM
In the Ice account settings, 9life cant be assigned to lcn 54 as it isnt in the list, does this need to be changed at Ice's end to work for recording?
Yes. I expect we will be setting it up today or tomorrow.
Thanks Dave. Any chance you could post on this thread to advise it has been done so I can then check it? :D
Certainly
9Life is no showing as SC9Life on our account and set to LCN54 so all looking good!! Thanks.