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Title: Skippa IR Remote
Post by: russell2200 on September 23, 2015, 07:12:09 PM
Anyone else having issues with the remote control ?

very irritating.  I found I kept pressing buttons and getting missed pushes not responding on there Skippa.

As with most remotes as long as your pointing in the general direction of the unit your pretty much good to go ... seems not so with Skippa, at least the unit I got.

On further testing if I'm just a few degrees off pointing at the unit it won't register any button presses.  I have to actually have the remote level and aligned pointing with at the Skippa.

I am sitting 3.5M away from the unit and 2.5m across so I'm sitting diagonally opposite the unit.   All my other media devices work fine as long as their remotes are pointing in the general direction not so with my Skippa unit.

Its really really annoying to have to do multiple button pushes all the time when it doesn't register.
Title: Re: Skippa IR Remote
Post by: hoadie on September 23, 2015, 07:32:13 PM
It's very sensitive in terms of being pointed directly at the IR receiver on the box. Plus it's not necessarily the best quality decide but it'll do until I replace it with my Harmony a bit later tonight.
Title: Re: Skippa IR Remote
Post by: Naffnick on September 24, 2015, 10:46:52 AM
Yeah, Russell2200,
I have to say that I'm not mad about the remote. While it looks quite nice and feels good in the hand, I found it a bit of a chore setting up Skippa yesterday and having to use the supplied remote.  Buttons seemed to sometimes not register the press or double-press when frustration cased me to press a little harder or longer. My very next step is to get the Logitech Harmony setup so that it works without my partner complaining that the buttons "are too @$%ing different!" and throwing it across the room. Myself? I love a challenge, so I'm looking forward to diving in when I get a spare few hours!
On another note, I'd like to say big ups to IceTV for including an HDMI cable with the unit. So many others consider this to be an optional extra, so I was very pleasantly surprised to find this in the box when I opened it.
Title: Re: Skippa IR Remote
Post by: IanL-S on September 24, 2015, 10:53:48 AM
One thing I have noticed with recent PVRs is that they have iOS and Android RCU Apps. Skippa does not seem to have one. Even some older Topfield PVR Models were give RCU Apps.

Ian
Title: Re: Skippa IR Remote
Post by: Likkie on September 24, 2015, 01:35:04 PM
Hi Guys,


I received my Skippa at work today and set it up when I went home for lunch.  So I've mucked around with it for about 40 mis in total.


I haven't experienced any problems with the remote at all.


My sitting position is about 3.5 meters from the unit at and angle of about 20-30 degrees for the front and in a shady room (blinds drawn).


I took note of its effectiveness because I had read your reports before I'd gone home.


I'm just reporting this because I thought, given my experience, you may be experiencing a fault rather than a design problem.


Cheers,


Erik
Title: Re: Skippa IR Remote
Post by: FMB on September 24, 2015, 02:54:20 PM
I will be setting up my Skippa as soon as I get home this afternoon. My Harmony remote is already set up and ready use, so I'll do some comparison testing to see if the problem is the remote or the remote receiver. I'll let you know.
Title: Re: Skippa IR Remote
Post by: FMB on September 24, 2015, 07:14:54 PM
The remote which ships with the Skippa is rubbish. It feels cheap and either doesn't acknowledge signals or doubles up. My Harmony One operates it perfectly. I just needs to configure some extra buttons.
Title: Re: Skippa IR Remote
Post by: hoadie on September 26, 2015, 05:18:39 PM
Having programmed my Harmony remote & adding an IR blaster it works really well now.
Title: Re: Skippa IR Remote
Post by: russell2200 on September 26, 2015, 05:22:12 PM
I was holding off spending that much money on a remote but I think I will bit the bullet and get one.  Looking at the Harmony Ultimate which has the networked HUB , extra IR blasters if you want to plug them in and the remote is NOT IR so it works to the hub through walls etc and the hub then does the IR blasting.

Anyone used one of them ?
Title: Re: Skippa IR Remote
Post by: zoszos68 on September 26, 2015, 05:23:20 PM
My remote has the same "must aim correctly issue" as well.
One idea I had as to the cause is the ir sender on the remote is recessed a little into the remote and maybe the signal get blocked a little.

I will have to look a my other remotes to see how they are and will report back.

Kevin
Title: Re: Skippa IR Remote
Post by: IanL-S on September 26, 2015, 05:41:45 PM
This is a common problem with PVR RCUs. The best ones I have had are the (discontinued) TP501 and the TP013 that Topfield use. Topfield have made some excellent RCUs and some abominations ... I'm looking at you TP602.

After-market RCU such as those from Logitech are much better.

Ian
Title: Re: Skippa IR Remote
Post by: Dave at IceTV on September 26, 2015, 11:45:37 PM
(The following first 3 paragraphs are the same as I posted in another thread)

My Skippa remote control puts out a very strong signal. Strong enough to point away from the Skippa and bounce off the wall behind me and still operate the Skippa 2 metres in front of me. I can also put 3 towels over the front of the remote and still operate the Skippa (4 towels were too much, as was 1 thick doona). I didn't have access to the Menacing Thick Fluffy Blanket (MTBF) that www.remotecentral.com use as their standardized(sic) test for measuring the infrared performance of universal remote controls.

My Skippa's remote also works at wider angles than the TV screen is comfortably viewable from (unless you like the blacks on your TV to look grey). I can point the remote left or right 80 degrees (in a 160 degree arc), or down 45 degrees, or up so far that it's now bouncing off the ceiling or back wall behind me.

If anyone is experiencing difficulty getting the Skippa to pickup the signal from their remote control try moving the Skippa forward so it is close to the front edge of the shelf it is sitting on.

If you try scrolling between multiple sub-menus too quickly the Skippa will pause for a split second, and if you get impatient and press the button again it will then move 2 steps as it catches up to your button presses. I don't see any missed button presses or double button presses. I just see a menu that can pause for a split second if I'm trying to scroll down the menus quickly and the PVR doing exactly the number of steps my button pressing told it to.

To me it's behaviour seems identical to my old favourite PVRs - the DP series Beyonwiz PVRs - where you had to get to used to it to be able to navigate it's top menu quickly, and the secret was patience and planning. i.e. If you wanted to scroll across 3 menus you pressed the right arrow 3 times and waited for it to move to the 3rd menu. You didn't press once, have a look, press again, have another look and think it hasn't moved so press again... only to see it move 2 steps, which was 1 step more than you wanted.
Title: Re: Skippa IR Remote
Post by: IanL-S on September 27, 2015, 10:54:31 AM
With the SKIPPA RCU I think my main problem is that I am not always pushing the button all the way.

I quite like the look and fell of it (although I have trouble reading the writing on the buttons .... old age ;D). It is reminiscent of the RCUs on the old standard definition Toppys (not the one for the 5000 Masterpiece and Black/Silver Panther).

Ian
Title: Re: Skippa IR Remote
Post by: pnkoshea on September 28, 2015, 05:59:38 AM
Hi Guys,

Can I ask what manufacturer & model code you used to get the Harmony to work?  I tried to set up my Harmony 200 and was nt able to find a manufacturer/model code that worked (Al Tech PVR9600 didn't) and then the Harmony would not register the Skippa's IR beam for manual configuration.

Any/All help appreciated!!

Cheers,
Rick
Title: Re: Skippa IR Remote
Post by: IanL-S on September 28, 2015, 07:20:31 AM
Quote from: pnkoshea on September 28, 2015, 05:59:38 AM
Hi Guys,

Can I ask what manufacturer & model code you used to get the Harmony to work?  I tried to set up my Harmony 200 and was nt able to find a manufacturer/model code that worked (Al Tech PVR9600 didn't) and then the Harmony would not register the Skippa's IR beam for manual configuration.

Any/All help appreciated!!

Cheers,
Rick

I did a search on the Harmony site for supported models and the result was that the IceTV SKIPPA was supported by all Harmony RCUs. I not tried setting it up on any of my Harmony RCUs.

Ian
Title: Re: Skippa IR Remote
Post by: stretch4x4 on September 28, 2015, 08:26:59 AM
Rick I setup my harmony 650 by typing in icetv as the manufacturer and Skippa as the device, it didn't autocomplete the manufacturer or model but it did accept those inputs and work correctly.

Seems to be far more responsive to that remote than the one it shipped with not that I had that many issues with the original..
Title: Re: Skippa IR Remote
Post by: Leon K on September 28, 2015, 02:21:37 PM
Hi Guys,

You may need to update the database on the remote itself first, as the SKIPPA is listed under IceTV SKIPPA in the Harmony database.

Cheers,
Leon
Title: Re: Skippa IR Remote
Post by: injidup on September 29, 2015, 01:23:54 PM
Quote from: russell2200 on September 26, 2015, 05:22:12 PM
I was holding off spending that much money on a remote but I think I will bit the bullet and get one.  Looking at the Harmony Ultimate which has the networked HUB , extra IR blasters if you want to plug them in and the remote is NOT IR so it works to the hub through walls etc and the hub then does the IR blasting.

Anyone used one of them ?

I have one. I waited until JBHifi had a 30% off deal on Logitech to help soften the blow. And didn't tell Mrs. Injidup how much to cost!
I'm very happy with it and as I may have to child-proof my system soon, the ability to use it in a closed cabinet will be a bonus.
This is my third Harmony and I've been happy with all of them. Two still in daily use.
Title: Re: Skippa IR Remote
Post by: injidup on October 01, 2015, 04:54:05 PM
As if by magic...

Logitech Remotes 30% off at JBHiFi until Weds 7th October

https://www.jbhifi.com.au/tv-home-entertainment/tv-accessories/logitech/logitech-harmony-ultimate-universal-remote/422715/
Title: Re: Skippa IR Remote
Post by: IanL-S on October 01, 2015, 05:05:36 PM
Yes, I got an email about that. Very tempting.

Ian
Title: Re: Skippa IR Remote
Post by: warkus on October 01, 2015, 05:28:35 PM
Just an FYI...

The prices are not that great, unless they are different in different states, I'm not sure...

Looking on the JBHIFI web site all I can see is...

harmony 350
Priced at $44.95 less 30% equals $34.96 according to the web
harmony 650
Priced at $89.95less 30% equals $62.96 according to the web

But yet officeworks have the harmony 650 at STANDARD PRICE of $59.98 on their web site, not on special, that's apparently their normal price... Go figure???

Anyway just thought id mention it in case anyone wants a 650... I have 3 of them in different areas and offices...not as flash as the higher end harmony units but still very good for $60.

Mark
Title: Re: Skippa IR Remote
Post by: IanL-S on October 01, 2015, 06:03:45 PM
Hi Mark

My thinking also. The Logitech Harmony Ultimate is $343 at JB but only $309 at Scorptec. It can be found on line for under $300.

Ian
Title: Re: Skippa IR Remote
Post by: russell2200 on October 02, 2015, 01:31:19 PM
I held off getting a Harmony due to the cost, however I relented and got a Harmony Ultimate and the best thing I ever did.

From my own personal experience so far with the Harmony Ultimate don't wait , run to your nearest supplier and get one.

1) While I am still waiting for the promised Skippa replacement unit  that I was told was being sent Monday ( no sign of it and its Friday .. PISSED OFF)  I have been able to test it on my Faulty Skippa and:

1) All problems with the dodgy Skippa remote are gone and Skippa responds fine to the Harmony remote ( fail Ice TV for using a cheap remote and or badly placed IR receiver in the unit) I assume this is 100% due to the blanket IR blasting the Harmony is able to do.  As well as the base station puck I am using the 2 additional IR blasters placed. This to me proves that the various people including myself reporting crappy remote experiences has to be the cheap Skippa remote.

A bit digressing from Skippa but I have the following equipment

Pioneer AV receiver
Apple TV
4 x Sonos Speakers
Samsung TV
Skippa

The Harmony , once setup, is a dream to control it all with 1 button push turning ON everything it should, putting each device on the right input and channel.  With the Harmonies touch and swipe LCD screen it was even able to replicate the Apple TV control.

So all in all works great with Skippa even if Skippa is still crashing and freezing and no promised replacement in sight yet.
Title: Re: Skippa IR Remote
Post by: TimC on October 04, 2015, 11:40:54 PM
Quote from: Dave at IceTV on September 26, 2015, 11:45:37 PM
(The following first 3 paragraphs are the same as I posted in another thread)

My Skippa remote control puts out a very strong signal. Strong enough to point away from the Skippa and bounce off the wall behind me and still operate the Skippa 2 metres in front of me. I can also put 3 towels over the front of the remote and still operate the Skippa (4 towels were too much, as was 1 thick doona). I didn't have access to the Menacing Thick Fluffy Blanket (MTBF) that www.remotecentral.com use as their standardized(sic) test for measuring the infrared performance of universal remote controls.
I agree I have found the signal is actually too strong.

I have a HDMI extender passing HDMI & IR to the bedroom. 

I found I had to cover the IR emitter on the Skippa remote with several layers of Leukapore tape to get it all to work.

Title: Re: Skippa IR Remote
Post by: sam on October 22, 2015, 05:27:26 PM
Quote from: pnkoshea on September 28, 2015, 05:59:38 AM
Hi Guys,

Can I ask what manufacturer & model code you used to get the Harmony to work?  I tried to set up my Harmony 200 and was nt able to find a manufacturer/model code that worked (Al Tech PVR9600 didn't) and then the Harmony would not register the Skippa's IR beam for manual configuration.

Any/All help appreciated!!

Cheers,
Rick

Hi Rick,

I have a Harmony 650 Universal Remote and have setup SKIPPA. The 'MyHarmony' setup accepted Manufacturer: IceTV DVR

Hope that helps you.
Cheers,
Sam