I've installed this version, and noticed some changes, so it is installed.
I still can't ftp .ts files (SD) from the Humax and read them on my PC with VideoRedo plus.
Copying them to a USB drive and physically connecting the drive to my computer works, as before.
Andrew
Are these files that you have recorded since upgrading the firmware?
Yep. Just tried it again. I've turned the PVR on and off etc. No difference, no joy.
Andrew
Hi,
Where did you get the 1.5 firmware update? It's still not available.
Ftp should work easy if you set it up to Dave's specifications. Use Filezilla, its free and as good as ones you pay for.
user: humaxftp
P.W; 0000
When the Humax file arrives on your PC via FTP convert it per Videoredo and arrange for it to covert it to a MPEG2 file,voila its visible on your PC,or you can also use Aisoft Total Video converter.
Joe
The version is 1.05.01. I just checked (using TV Portal) and it's still there.
I do use FileZilla. And I use VideoRedo V3. Voila or not, I get an error (as before): Cannot Find PAT Packet ...
Please read my original post again. I can open .ts files OK, even those from the PVR, but only via the USB drive.
Andrew
Is the FTP file transfer being done in binary mode? You can force binary mode in with Transfer>Transfer Type>Binary (at least that's where it is in the Mac version of WizZilla).
It was set to Auto. I tried Binary - same result.
Andrew
Quote from: agabb on January 10, 2012, 05:53:21 PM
It was set to Auto. I tried Binary - same result.
Andrew
OK, not that, then.
Agapp is right,
Since i have the firmware 1.05 which loaded itself onto my Humax ,i can't play my downloaded files from the Humax via FTP or convert them with Videoredo as it tells me: Cannot Find PAT Packet ..
Previously i could easily covert the FTP downloaded ts file into a proper Mpeg2 file and then play it.
No such fun any more,Seems to me those Korean software designers are not quite sure what they are doing?!?!
As far as I know the FTP transferred ts files have never been playable or editable on a PC.
Version 1.04.00 added the ability to copy recordings to a connected USB drive and it is these ts files that can be played and edited on a PC.
Version 1.05.01 added the ability for the Humax to play it's own recordings after they had been copied to a USB drive.
I just do a 2 step transfer to copy an editable and playable ts file to the PC:
1. Copy recording(s) to a USB drive connected to the Humax (via the Humax opt+ menu).
2. Use an FTP client on the PC to access the USB drive while it is still connected to the Humax and transfer the ts file to the PC.
A bit complicated,don't you agree?
I could with 1.04 transfer a Humax file per FTP and THEN convert it without fuss with Videoredo to play on the PC or make a DVD from it or whatever. By itself ,you are right ,the file did not play. It needed conversion to Mpeg2.
If i had the file on a USB stick why would i transfer it per FTP then? I could just take the USB stick and play it on the PC? Do you follow my train of thought?
I found previously that to use an external HDD the Humax was fussy what disk you used,i used a Hitachi 500Gb and a Samsung 500Gb........was not recognized,Then i used a Saegate HDD and no worries, i have though completely dropped the idea of using the external disk as it is not bringing any results that would satisfy me.
Transferring per FTP is the way and if that doesn't work ,get them to fix it.
Transferring from Humax HDD to PC via FTP has always created encrypted files (even in 1.04).
If you want Humax to remove the encryption on FTP transfers then contact Humax and ask them (the more people that ask the better). All they need to do is add the same copyright warning that appears when you enable Media Sharing. i.e. When you enable the FTP Server you agree to their copyright warning. EDIT: It may not be that simple. It would seem that the recordings are saved as encrypted ts files. Then when transferring to a USB drive a new unencrypted file is created on the USB drive. As FTP transfers are done by the FTP client running on the PC the file that is copied is the encrypted file. So they would need to change the way the shows are recorded in the first place, which may be a big job. Alternatively Humax could release a PC app that uses the FTP protocol to transfer recordings and save them as an unencrypted ts file.
Until (if) this change is implemented the method mentioned a few posts above about transferring the recording to a USB drive and then via FTP to the PC works well, and is a lot quicker than unplugging the USB drive and taking it to the PC.
Humax is signed up (http://freeview.com.au/products/) with Freeview as both a Freeview and a Freeview EPG manufacturer. If the Humax in question is a Freeview (or Freeview EPG) model, then as I understand it, limiting copying of recordings in this kind of way is a Freeview requirement. The manufacturer won't change this on a Freeview-badged product.
"Freeview - more for free". Or so they say.
Thankfully we are talking about a non-Freeview PVR. Currently there is only one Humax DVBt PVR model available in Australia, the HDR-7500T, and it is IceTV compatible so is not Freeview crippled.
Quote from: toppytools on January 14, 2012, 06:51:06 PM
... and it is IceTV compatible so is not Freeview crippled.
There's no necessary connection between having IceTV and not having Freeview limitations. The Beyonwiz FV-L1 is Freeview badged, has the classic Freeview limitations, but can be configured to use IceTV. You can see for yourself that the FV-L1 is supported by IceTV just by going to your My Account>TV Recorders page, and looking at the dropdown list of supported devices.
There
may be some connection between Freeview EPG badging and not having IceTV. I don't know of any counterexamples (Freeview EPG boxes with IceTV capability), but I'm not all that familiar with the Freeview PVR market, since my interest in having a Freeview-constrained PVR is so close to zero as to not matter.
IceTV's claim on their home page that "All IceTV enabled TV recorders can skip through those annoying ads in a flash with a 'skip' button on the remote control Click, click, click and they're gone!" is just wrong. As I've pointed out a number of this times on the forum since it first appeared on their home page.
Dave,
In version 1.04 the files i got with FTP from the Humax were definitely encrypted but could easily be processed and made unencrypted with Videoredo ,i know, i have done it .
Then when 1.05 came along that was as you say ,different and you needed to either copy the files to a USB stick or to a HDD and then either( again tried and found it works) FTPed to the PC or the HDD or Stick removed and brought to the PC.It works both ways.
Thanks though for putting me on the right track to first copy the recordings onto Stick or HDD, why Humax does it this way is a myth as others don't do it( Toppy,Tivo ,Beyonwiz etc)
I've tried copying to USB and it worked OK for me. Does it work with HD as well as SD?
Andrew
It should work the same for HD and SD recordings.
To save a whole new thread...
Am I reading correctly that I can copy a file to a USB device and it's automatically decrypted, but I can't FTP in to the box and copy it off that way and then be able to edit or even play it!!??
(I'm running a new 7500T which I let upgrade it's own firmware).
I haven't tried it and from scottb's posts I believe that you at correct. But another poster indicated that he could play the ts files via DLNA on his pc direct streaming.
You would be doing us all a favour if you could confirm this.
Check chrispydogs posts under any feedback on Humax
Hi,
The encryption is removed when a file is copied to external storage (you have to acknowledge the copyright screen), as the FTP transfer does not involve the box directly the encryption is not removed. If you attach an external drive, copy the files to that and then FTP off that drive (which I think you can do with the latest firmware) then you wil be an unencrypted file!
If you get the beta version of VLC it supports streaming from the Humax, quite cool. Note that the normal download verion (V1.x) does not seem to support this, you need the V2 beta.
Cheers,
Scott.