Ten have rebranded themselves in sydney today, after a rescan of channel 11 I now have:
LCN10 Ten Digital
LCN11 One HD
LCN12 One Digital
So Ten HD has moved LCNs, LCN12 now has the second SD channel (andit has an ugly great SD2 bug in the top left corner). My questions are, do ICE need to change anything at their end, and if they do when is it going to happen?
Thanks.
There is also:
LCN1 One HD
Looks like they have sprung this one without warning for anyone sadly.
From the release that went out from Ten not everyone is changing today (with some changes not going through until next week), but at most there will be some channel name changes, and the channel associated with LCN 12 will need to change as well.
Will post again when these changes are made.
LCN1 I think would bet the primary TenHD channel, 11 is an alias.
So it used to be way back:
10,1=TenSD (I used "10" at the time to access the SD channel, but some used 1)
12=TenHD
Then they changed mid to late last year:
1,12=TenHD
10=TenSD
And now finally:
1,11=TenHD/OneHD (sniff, goodbye TenHD, I knew you well).
10=TenSD
12=OneSD
So the main change really is the LCN12 (which was a HD alias to 1) has become the new SD channel (this is all very well detailed in a Ten press release last year about their new "ONE" channels).
LCN11 appears to just be there to fill the top bunch of channels with a few extras to make people's STB/etc who aren't using faves and/or deleting extras show more of the Ten channel (and maybe for those that never bothered to rescan and have been used to watching HD on 12 can now watch on 11?)
Regards
Quote from: Daniel Hall on February 11, 2009, 03:45:54 PM
There is also:
LCN1 One HD
Looks like they have sprung this one without warning for anyone sadly.
From the release that went out from Ten not everyone is changing today (with some changes not going through until next week), but at most there will be some channel name changes, and the channel associated with LCN 12 will need to change as well.
Will post again when these changes are made.
Thanks Daniel.
Ten also has a release announcing the kickoff time for ONE (http://www.tencorporate.com.au/library/documents/ONE%20to%20launch%20on%2026%20March%202009.pdf):
QuoteNetwork Ten will kick off Australia's first free-to-air 24-hour sports channel, ONE, on Thursday 26 March 2009 at 7.30 pm with an exciting program of top sporting action.
In summary (from Ten) the changes are:
• Logical Channel Number (LCN) 1 will change its service name from "TEN HD" to "ONE
HD". There will be no other technical changes to this channel.
• LCN 10 will not change, but the second audio component which provided audio in Dolby
Digital (AC-3) 2/0 will no longer exist.
• LCN 11 will be added to the service list and mirror the service on Channel 1. For an
interim period, the program information on this channel will carry a fixed advisory
message for viewers.
• LCN 12 will change its service name from "TEN HD" to "ONE Digital". This channel will
change from a high definition channel to standard definition. For an interim period, the
program information on this channel will carry a fixed advisory message for viewers.
Quote from: Daniel Hall on February 11, 2009, 03:45:54 PM
There is also:
LCN1 One HD
Looks like they have sprung this one without warning for anyone sadly.
From the release that went out from Ten not everyone is changing today (with some changes not going through until next week), but at most there will be some channel name changes, and the channel associated with LCN 12 will need to change as well.
Will post again when these changes are made.
Daniel, I had a look in the media releases on the Ten corporate Web site, and I couldn't find anything about the LCN change timetable. Have they posted it anywhere public?
Not that I know of, as a member of certain industry groups correspondence came through with the above mentioned changes. The dates specified for the changes was:
"These changes will occur on-air from Wednesday 11th February, 2009 or the following week on 18th February 2009"
Quote from: Daniel Hall on February 11, 2009, 04:14:15 PM
Not that I know of, as a member of certain industry groups correspondence came through with the above mentioned changes. The dates specified for the changes was:
"These changes will occur on-air from Wednesday 11th February, 2009 or the following week on 18th February 2009"
OK, thanks.
I just scanned here in Melbourne on my STB (will do on Vista media Center when Ice change the guide names) and OneHD is there (well name change till loss of tv shows in HD).
Any idea when you will add the new OneHD name to the guide.
Kevin
So I just went in to my interactive and all my programs that were to record on Ten HD now have little yellow triangles next to them indicating a problem, I notice that it is now marked as One HD in the interactive and not Ten HD do I have to do a rescan ? will it fix itself the next time my HTPC updates via Ice should I just ingnore the interactive as they will record anyway ?
Some further Information would be helpful I do not want to miss any of my shows
Mel
The names in the guides have been updated. We will getting an email out shortly to notify of the change (similar to when SBS 2 changed names).
In terms of IceTV Interactive and Media Center, as this is the only system that relies on channel name and not LCN for remote scheduling then this is where you may encounter problems, in this case the best option is to check that the guide is now showing up for channel 1 as "ONE HD" and if not go into "Add listings to channel" and assign it again, once done you will then need to go into IceTV Interactive and "Re-schedule recording" from the My Upcoming Shows screen as shows that have failed to schedule do not automatically retry.
On Interactive does the SD channel need to be called ONE Dig? Why not follow existing naming convention of other channels and have ONE & ONE HD?
"One Digital" (which is the name as presented by the broadcaster when you rescan) is an SD duplicate of "One HD". "Ten Digital" is as Ten calls it, is their primary SD channel.
Should ICE give them different names to the broadcaster, and confuse the masses even further (look at the freeview website and dtvforums for how much confusion the OneSD/HD is causing people), or should they keep them as the names that the broadcaster intended? I would say number 2, at least for the time being until people understand what OneDig, OneHD, Ten Digital are.
While the channel names for most systems should be "ONE Digital" and "Ten Digital" (especially for Media Center which uses channel names instead of LCN's for channel mapping), the names under the website and widgets can be different and should now be "ONE" and "Ten" respectively.
Quote from: Daniel Hall on February 12, 2009, 08:47:05 PM
While the channel names for most systems should be "ONE Digital" and "Ten Digital" (especially for Media Center which uses channel names instead of LCN's for channel mapping), the names under the website and widgets can be different and should now be "ONE" and "Ten" respectively.
Good work Daniel!!!!
So let me get this right... if we don't give a damn about sport (which we don't) and the new channels are all about sport (which they appear to be) then we don't actually have to do a thing (except perhaps delete them when we do eventually need to do a rescan) - correct?
24/7 sport... gee, how truly bori-ZZZZZZZzzzzzzzz...........
Not sure why I therefore lost 10 (Channel Ten) listings from my Guide last night on both media centres if nothing changed on this channel - just a good job there was nothing set to record.
I also lost my Channel 7 listings and I'm not sure that there was anything changing there but since it was on two media centres I'd guess it was something at the Ice end?
Was it just me? If it wasn't then please can you confirm that the change is now done and there won't need to be another update?
Andy
Unfortunately whenever there is a change to the channel line up it can cause Media Center's guide listings to go a little haywire, this doesn't happen on all systems however.
This is why whenever a change is forced on us we make the most of it and tidy things up that need tidying.
At this stage we are envisioning two more changes this year depending on what 7 and 9 do for there secondary channels as part of Freeview. As always we will be notifying everyone when we know what these changes will entail.
Discovered today that (in Sydney anyway) One Digital (SD) is already carrying a simulcast of One HD, I thought this wasn't supposed to happen till March 26?
Those with SD only STBs can now get the previously HD only sports broadcast that Ten has been showing.
Quote from: j s on February 13, 2009, 04:58:46 PM
Discovered today that (in Sydney anyway) One Digital (SD) is already carrying a simulcast of One HD, I thought this wasn't supposed to happen till March 26?
Those with SD only STBs can now get the previously HD only sports broadcast that Ten has been showing.
One Digital is a simulcast of ONE HD. Since ONE HD hasn't launched yet it's a SD simulcast of TEN HD. The changes you see were announced by Network TEN and have been rolled out in all the capitals I think, certainly the East Coast ones anyway.
Quote from: Trial_Master on February 13, 2009, 05:03:43 PM
Quote from: j s on February 13, 2009, 04:58:46 PM
Discovered today that (in Sydney anyway) One Digital (SD) is already carrying a simulcast of One HD, I thought this wasn't supposed to happen till March 26?
Those with SD only STBs can now get the previously HD only sports broadcast that Ten has been showing.
One Digital is a simulcast of ONE HD. Since ONE HD hasn't launched yet it's a SD simulcast of TEN HD. The changes you see were announced by Network TEN and have been rolled out in all the capitals I think, certainly the East Coast ones anyway.
Whatever the names are the point I was making is that TEN now has two differing SD channels meaing that viewers with SD only tuners can now see the (mostly sport) content previously available only to those with HD tuners.
Until the ONE channel launches. Yep you are correct :)
I got my email from IceTV today suggesting I rescan (ACT, Black Mountain transmitters). When I rescanned, I just got the same old SC10 services. Looks like the ONE revolution hasn't hit the boondocks of the national capital yet :)
Quote from: Andy on February 13, 2009, 10:05:54 AM
Not sure why I therefore lost 10 (Channel Ten) listings from my Guide last night on both media centres if nothing changed on this channel - just a good job there was nothing set to record.
I also lost my Channel 7 listings and I'm not sure that there was anything changing there but since it was on two media centres I'd guess it was something at the Ice end?
Was it just me? If it wasn't then please can you confirm that the change is now done and there won't need to be another update?
Andy
I did too!
I just did a full reconfig / scan etc in the hope that it wouldn't happen again as the other day I lost 7 and 10.
Quote from: prl on February 13, 2009, 09:54:05 PM
I got my email from IceTV today suggesting I rescan (ACT, Black Mountain transmitters). When I rescanned, I just got the same old SC10 services. Looks like the ONE revolution hasn't hit the boondocks of the national capital yet :)
Yeah, its a shame too, Southern Cross Ten have already announced that they will be carrying the ONE HD feed, but not when the channels names will change, what they will change to, or whether they will be offering it from when the new content starts on March 26th.
Quote from: Daniel Hall on February 14, 2009, 12:56:18 AM
Quote from: prl on February 13, 2009, 09:54:05 PM
I got my email from IceTV today suggesting I rescan (ACT, Black Mountain transmitters). When I rescanned, I just got the same old SC10 services. Looks like the ONE revolution hasn't hit the boondocks of the national capital yet :)
Yeah, its a shame too, Southern Cross Ten have already announced that they will be carrying the ONE HD feed, but not when the channels names will change, what they will change to, or whether they will be offering it from when the new content starts on March 26th.
I couldn't find anything about the timetable for Freeview on Southern Cross Broadcasting's Web site, either. They haven't posted a press release there since Oct 2007. It had a bit of a dusty feel about it :)
I imagine that when ONE kicks in on the metropolitan stations, the only HD feed available to SC Ten will be ONE HD. My recent experience is that SC Ten appears to have been skimping fairly heavily on what they've taken from the Ten HD feed. It'll be interesting to see what they do. Not that I really care about what's on ONE. From their press release, their sports lineup seems to be one big yawn. Not even any Proper Cricket.
I don't know whether this has anything to do with the reconfigurations around Ten's ONE HD, but I see The Late Show (23:20 weekdays) on SC10 HD ACT in my Beyonwiz EPG, and in the Mac Dashboard widget, but not on my IceTV Guide. I don't watch it, so I don't really care, but just a heads-up. I have Southern Cross TEN Capital HD ticked in my ACT region setup in my account page on the IceTV Web.