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I have noticed something via the ota Guide in Melbourne (I know you can't use it but it may help in investigating this issue).

What I have noticed is the 9HD guide will not be simulcast from 6:30pm Sunday 9th. Its all unique programming 24/7 not even the news is simulcast.

So this leaves me with an incorrect guide if this is so. And as you will be realising as you read this anyone recording shows will be in for a shock when something else is there instead.
So either the guide needs to be blank from then or the new data entered.

Oh and if you already know and its being fixed then make sure we customers know as all HD programmes will have to be rescheduled.
The Nine fun continues or is that dtv as a whole?
Kevin

Hmm funny I read this now. The Bill recorded here today at 2:00pm. I knew it was a repeat but as i was using the pc (Vista and not a media only pc) I let it record and even now I have not deleted it. But thanks to this post I am reminded.
See your forums are useful in many ways :D.
Kevin

I saw just now on the useless Yahoo Seven guide that they did not update there 7HD guide (the reason I,m here now).
I'm glad in a way that you cant use online guides as even there not right at times.

Seven has known this for almost 48 hours has and still cant update there online HD guide. I'm glad you at "Ice" are the ball.
In the future I will check your guide first but for some reason I went straight to Sevens guide to see when yesterdays Home And Away will be on.

+1 Ice.
-1 Seven.
Kevin

Wait.  So the free to air EPG is resonable enough? Whats the advantage to paying for icetv going forward?

the free to air guide is ok if you don't want the following: 1: Series recording as many titles etc are not suitable (last I looked that is).
2: More reliable updates of programme changes at late notice.
3: More descriptive programme info.

That,s just a few of the things I can think of of the top of my head. 
Kevin

Series recoding is broken with IceTV for WIndows7 - which is the deal breaker.  The free to air EPG has the same issue?

Looks like only option is fumbling around with XML data if chosing to go to windows7

Not really broken with fta epg. It's just the info is not so great for example Nine just say Saturday night movie for example or Wide
World Of Sport etc with the name of programme in the description.
The networks are a fault there.
Kevin

Wait.  So the free to air EPG is resonable enough? Whats the advantage to paying for icetv going forward?

the free to air guide is ok if you don't want the following: 1: Series recording as many titles etc are not suitable (last I looked that is).
2: More reliable updates of programme changes at late notice.
3: More descriptive programme info.

That,s just a few of the things I can think of of the top of my head. 
Kevin

It's not a downloadable guide. The "free" as you call it is from the " over the air guide" broadcast from the networks.
I must say it's hard to know which is over the air or ice without reading to see if it's a funny description or not.
Ten help by putting copyright Ten on there info.
Kevin

What guide area is that for as I have Footy Classified on then as usual.
Or does Victoria (I have Melbourne Guide) Miss out on the good bits again lol.
Kevin

Got the problem again wont go into detail as I am sick of it.
Happens on Vista and Win7 both have the same errors and identical guides.
Affects: ABC1, ABC HD, and a very little of Nine (not 100% sure there.
Kevin
Edit: Before I even posted this I checked again and all is ok (takes a while to scroll through lol).
Thought I would post anyway to let you know it happened again yesterday and just now I see it's ok.

I'm sure someone will be in touch with you very soon Kevin.

Tracey
IceGuide

You must be psychic :).
At least I know I'm not alone with this problem now.
Kevin

Kevin,

Our guides are correct.  This seems to be a technical issue.  Could you please contact Technical Support.

Thank you
Tracey
IceGuide

I did last night still waiting for a reply...
And I just rescanned and reset up Vista Media Center and got the same Problem of ABC HD 5 minutes ahead then solo is listed twice tonight which then puts the rest out by 1 hour and 5 minutes.
Other than removing sp2 rc I have run out of ideas so will wait till Technical support contact me...........................................................
Kevin

I can explain how this could happen in a PVR, but I know nothing about VMC.
ICE data is GMT/UTC.   A PVR adds the known GMT offset to the data to display it to you in your local time.    With Topfield 5K PVRs, the way it calculates the GMT offset if you run your PVR clock in manual time (to avoid dodgy broadcaster timestamps) is really dumb.   It subtracts your PVR manual crystal run clock time from the broadcaster timestamp (broadcaster timestamps are in GMT) and thus obtains a GMT offset.   It then applies this to the GMT based EPG data (from the broadcaster or from ICE) and bobs your uncle, EPG displayed in local time.    The issue arrises with this strategy that if your unit clock is out by say, 3minutes (lets say 3mins fast), then when it uses this strategy it will thus calculate your GMT offset to be 10hours&3mins, and thus your EPG will look like it is 3minutes ahead of what it should be (shows starting at 8.33 instead of 8.30 for example).
If the broadcaster GMT timestamp is dodgy (because some local broadcasters are hopeless and can't adjust their broadcasting clocks properly!), then you will get the same result, EPG out by however many minutes (or hours!!) your broadcaster clock is out by.
If the PVR is in AUTO time, it only uses the broadcaster clock for your main PVR clock, but in AUTO time you setup a GMT offset yourself, so this fixed GMT offset is applied to the GMT based EPG and you will always get accurate EPG this way (shame that if the broadcaster timestamp is dodgy your PVR clock will vary wildly!!)
Regards

VMC did not have the epg ota when it was released. It was later included in a "TV Pack" but that is only available to oem's on new Media Center PC's.
I have not put on "TV Pack' As a: It's not legally available and b: Ice TV does not currently work with it.
I do have SP2 RC as mentioned above.
I am installing the beta of Windows 7 today an a spare HDD and will see if I get the same guide problems.
With Windows 7 both the ota guide and Third party (Ice TV) work. One I noticed when trying it earlier was that any data that was not sent by Ice was filled with the ota data so the different descriptions really help there.
I will now try updating the clock to see what happens.
Strange that it happens on 1 channel only.
Kevin

I was scrolling through the ABC listings to see a show tonight Solo listed twice in a row. The first is 8:35pm till 9:35 pm (5 minutes ahead) followed by the same Solo again which therefore puts all future shows 1 hour and 5 minutes out. I did not check the entire listings but something is surely amiss here. Hmmmm who to blame is the big question.
Kevin

Woke just before to see ABC HD 1 hour and 20 minutes ahead. So I did an update and now there only 5 minutes ahead.
Strange things are happening hear. Can let me know that all is ok at your end as I don't want to waste my time checking my end.
I do have SP2 on (yes it's an RC) but I wont blame that (as it's unlikey) until I hear back from you.
Kevin

Yes it was on at that time. But the ABC HD guide is 35 minutes out for all shows. And as it was one of the few HD shows the ABC has I noticed.
So something is wrong. The ABC 1 guide is ok.
Kevin

Hi my ABC HD listings in Vista Media Center are 35 minutes ahead of what they should be. I first had copy sd to hd on so changed to not copy and still the HD shoes are ahead by 35 minutes.
I was lucky I watched The Gruen Transfer and nobody else needed to see it. It also explained why it suddenly showed the now recording near the end of The Gruen Transfer.
Hopefully there is a reason at your end as I can not think of a reason for it to be here.
Kevin