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Title: The One Percent Club
Post by: BazzaG on March 21, 2024, 11:54:32 PM
Hi,

1. The correct name of this show is: "The 1% Club". However, if the "%" character is going to cause issues perhaps better to have the show name as: "The 1 Percent Club".

2. The are currently 2 productions of this show ... the original UK production which is now into it's 3rd season and the Aussie production.

3. Next week the Aussie production moves to Tuesday night @ 19:30 and it appears that the UK production starts next Wednesday night @ 19:30.

ATM, IceTV has the Wednesday night as a "repeat". However, in 9's YourTV guide and several other TV guides we have:

QuoteThe 1% Club
7:30PM - 8:30PM
CC
Comedy legend Lee Mack hosts the quiz show 'The 1% Club', where the questions are all about applying logic, reasoning skills and common sense.

While for Tuesday night we have:

QuoteThe 1% Club
7:30PM - 8:30PM
CC
This is a game show like no other. Unlike most quizzes, they don't need to brush up on general knowledge to do well. All they need is logic and common sense. Hosted by comedian Jim Jefferies.

If this is true then IceTV needs to add a country ID to the show name:

* The 1% Club (AU) or The 1 Percent Club (AU), and

* The 1% Club (UK) or The 1 Percent Club (UK).

Thankyou
Title: Re: The One Percent Club
Post by: Lisa on March 22, 2024, 04:21:54 PM
Hi Bazza,

Unfortunately, the % is a problem with the system..it doesn't like it.
I have removed the R flag for Wednesday night and am in the process of trying to create a new show, thee UK version to "The One Percent Club - UK".

cheers,  Lisa
Title: Re: The One Percent Club
Post by: aeb001 on March 25, 2024, 01:57:12 PM
@lisa The One Percent Club - 'Series 1, Episode 1' - 7HD, 7:30pm, Wed, 27 Mar 2024, 60 minutes < The 1 Percent Club (UK)
Title: Re: The One Percent Club
Post by: BazzaG on March 25, 2024, 02:28:31 PM
Lisa, Apologies for my delayed response ... been dealing with a unexpected death in the family.

Anyway, thankyou.

I would, however, very much prefer these shows to be as close to the real name as possible with country of broadcast listed on both, ie.

The 1 Percent Club (AU) and The 1 Percent Club (UK).

FYI ... A US version has now been commissioned by Amazon Prime as well, but that might take many years before it gets to FTA TV, if at all.

Cheers
Title: Re: The One Percent Club
Post by: Lisa on March 25, 2024, 04:25:02 PM
Hi Bazza,

I am really sorry to hear that...condolences.
Just been speaking to Dan and he has said that it should be ok to change the name back to "The 1% Percent Club - AU" and likewise with the UK version, but we won't do that until after the Aus version airs tomorrow night just in case it affects some recordings. So on Wednesday, we will correct the name of the Aus version and also create and change the UK version. The system won't allow us to change the name of the Wednesday UK airing before this unfortunately.
All very confusing really.

cheers,  Lisa
Title: Re: The One Percent Club
Post by: Lisa on March 25, 2024, 04:27:46 PM
Hi Adrian,

please see my reply to Bazza re The 1% Percent Club...all is in hand.

cheers,  Lisa
Title: Re: The One Percent Club
Post by: BazzaG on March 25, 2024, 04:35:20 PM
Thankyou Lisa
Title: Re: The One Percent Club
Post by: aeb001 on March 27, 2024, 02:24:50 PM
it needed to be set up how bazza said. % is a html code & causes web errors
Title: Re: The One Percent Club
Post by: aeb001 on March 27, 2024, 02:25:49 PM
then add it to new shows after the change to "The 1 Percent Club (UK)"
Title: Re: The One Percent Club
Post by: Tiphanee on March 27, 2024, 02:30:44 PM
Hi there Adrian -

I spoke to Dan about this yesterday as I know in the past it has caused issues. I will double check again with him and will change if necessary in the next hour so you don't miss the recording.

I will also add to New Shows.

Cheers,

Tiphanee
Title: Re: The One Percent Club
Post by: BazzaG on March 27, 2024, 02:39:45 PM
Forget about using the "%" sign, simply update the 2 shows as:

The 1 Percent Club (AU), and

The 1 Percent Club (UK)
Title: Re: The One Percent Club
Post by: Tiphanee on March 27, 2024, 03:47:50 PM
After more discussion, we have decided to name both programmes The 1 Percent Club and we have put in our internal comments whether it is the Aus or UK version, similar to how we have other programmes. We like to be as consistent as we can with the guides. If there becomes confusion, we will look at putting the country against one of them.

For now, tonight's screening is showing The 1 Percent Club and it is in the New Shows list.

Cheers,

Tiphanee
Title: Re: The One Percent Club
Post by: prl on March 27, 2024, 03:54:51 PM
Quote from: aeb001 on March 27, 2024, 02:24:50 PM% is a html code & causes web errors

% is a special character in URLs, and must be encoded in them as %25. It is not a special character in HTML text, though it does also have a character entity that represents it, &percnt;.

The characters that must be represented as character entities in HTML are &, <, >, ' and ". They can be represented in HTML by &amp;, &lt;, &gt;, &apos; and &quot; respectively.

I don't know why % is problematic in IceTV titles, but it's not because it's special in HTML text.
Title: Re: The One Percent Club
Post by: BazzaG on March 27, 2024, 03:58:21 PM
OK about "The 1 Percent Club" but not about leaving off the country id ... just wrong.

IceTV already uses country ID in the show titles and I can see no reason why the same cannot be done with this show.
Title: Re: The One Percent Club
Post by: Tiphanee on March 27, 2024, 04:05:07 PM
Hi Bazza,

I've changed it again... You will now see The 1 Percent Club UK and The 1 Percent Club Australia.

Cheers,

Tiphanee
Title: Re: The One Percent Club
Post by: aeb001 on March 27, 2024, 05:11:32 PM
The 1 Percent Club UK < add to new shows
Title: Re: The One Percent Club
Post by: BazzaG on March 27, 2024, 05:19:46 PM
Thankyou Tiphanee
Title: Re: The One Percent Club
Post by: Tiphanee on March 27, 2024, 05:49:15 PM
Hi Adrian -

I added it earlier this afternoon. It will come through overnight.

Cheers,

Tiphanee
Title: Re: The One Percent Club
Post by: aeb001 on March 27, 2024, 05:56:53 PM
oh ok as it airs tongiht some ppl may miss out on the show
Title: Re: The One Percent Club
Post by: aeb001 on March 27, 2024, 06:21:36 PM
Quote from: prl on March 27, 2024, 03:54:51 PM
Quote from: aeb001 on March 27, 2024, 02:24:50 PM% is a html code & causes web errors

% is a special character in URLs, and must be encoded in them as %25. It is not a special character in HTML text, though it does also have a character entity that represents it, &percnt;.

The characters that must be represented as character entities in HTML are &, <, >, ' and ". They can be represented in HTML by &amp;, &lt;, &gt;, &apos; and &quot; respectively.

I don't know why % is problematic in IceTV titles, but it's not because it's special in HTML text.

Its to do wth the show title being part of the url & therefore the % somehow corrupts it
Title: Re: The One Percent Club
Post by: prl on March 28, 2024, 09:24:37 AM
Quote from: aeb001 on March 27, 2024, 06:21:36 PMIts to do wth the show title being part of the url & therefore the % somehow corrupts it

That would only be if the % was not properly encoded in the URL. "The-1%-Club-UK" (as it might appear in a URL path component in, say, an entry in "My Shows") would properly be encoded as "The-1%25-Club-UK". That encoding should be done by the code that generates the HTML.

It's not the only issue with encoding of characters in IceTV. The encoding of text characters outside the ASCII range has long been broken in both the HTML and in the JSON data sent in the "new" IceTV API (e.g. for the "newer" Beyonwiz devices). That seems to have been "fixed" recently by avoiding those characters. For example, in The Wall, the lead character's name, CĂ©line, is transliterated to Celine, avoiding, but not addressing, the problem.
Title: Re: The One Percent Club
Post by: MD on March 28, 2024, 10:01:16 AM
We're a small company and everyone does their best but there are only 24 hours in a day, and this issue is far down our priority list.  It has no effect on the enjoyment of our services and their consumption of recorded free to air TV.
Title: Re: The One Percent Club
Post by: aeb001 on March 28, 2024, 03:49:22 PM
The 1 Percent Club Australia - 7HD, 7:30pm, Wed, 3 Apr 2024, 60 minutes < The 1 Percent Club UK - S03E02
https://www.yourtv.com.au/program/the-1-club/422049/
Title: Re: The One Percent Club
Post by: Tiphanee on March 28, 2024, 04:08:14 PM
Hi Adrian -

Yes, we're aware of this issue. These will need to be changed on the day of airing.

Chat soon,

Tiphanee
Title: Re: The One Percent Club
Post by: BazzaG on March 28, 2024, 04:40:36 PM
I suspect the problem here is that Seven is using the same name for both productions with only the pgm description  identifying that they are actually different.

FYI ... There's no Aussie version next week.
Title: Re: The One Percent Club
Post by: prl on March 28, 2024, 06:38:24 PM
Quote from: MD on March 28, 2024, 10:01:16 AMWe're a small company and everyone does their best but there are only 24 hours in a day, and this issue is far down our priority list.  It has no effect on the enjoyment of our services and their consumption of recorded free to air TV.

I appreciate that, but the problem with mangled UTF-8 encoding goes back literally years.