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Repeats and double ups
« on: January 24, 2021, 01:42:32 PM »
I thought I'd list mine, as everyone else is

Healthy Homes TV 10 Bold, 3:30pm, Sun, 24 Jan 2021, 30 minutes
  I watched this show yesterday, and they said it was the last of the series, so presumably, this one is a repeat




The Project 10 HD, 11:30pm, Mon, 25 Jan 202160 minutes (end the rest of the week)
The Late Late Show With James Corden 10 Shake, 4:05am, Wed, 27 Jan 2021, (this is on about midnight, so this is a repeat - same on Thursday)




The Ellen DeGeneres Show 9Gem, 10:30am, Thu, 28 Jan 2021 (This is on every day, I have deleted the ones from earlier)
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Re: Repeats and double ups
« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2021, 06:41:10 PM »
Here is the list of repeats I found as of this evening.  (Law & Order has been fixed)
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Re: Repeats and double ups
« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2021, 09:37:05 PM »
I thought I'd list mine, as everyone else is
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Hi Judy,


Re. your screenshots of "double ups".
On your V2, do you have two x timers set for "Grand Designs"?  If so, both set for 19:42 start (minus your pre-padding) or some other start time,
The Wiz won't allow a timer for the same start time/service, at least I I don't believe, so one should be different (likely by 5 mins).
Or is one set for each of LCN 2 and 21 (the two ABC TV services)


Same for "Qi" 21:28?


Then we get to Adam Hills, where I can see one is set for the one of the SD services and one for the HD service (ABC TV and ABC TV HD respectively).  Again, actually two timers on the V2?
A while ago I removed the simulcasts from my IceTV account, so that can't happen to me. I'm not convinced the IceTV scheduler is good enough to track the timers, their services, and changes and match them up.
There's been posts on the forum that tend to suggest that sometimes it doesn't get it right.
I know I'm not alone in stripping back the enabled services in one's account.



You can open http://beyonwizv2/api/timerlist in a browser [size=78%]and grab these 6 entries for each relevant timer -[/size]
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   "servicename": "10 HD",
   "realend": "25.01.2021 21:54",
   "name": "I'm A Celebrity... Get Me Out Of Here",
   "realbegin": "25.01.2021 19:25",
   "eit": 64120,
   "serviceref": "1:0:19:684:607:1014:EEEE0000:0:0:0:",


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Re: Repeats and double ups
« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2021, 10:19:31 PM »

Re. your screenshots of "double ups".
On your V2, do you have two x timers set for "Grand Designs"?  If so, both set for 19:42 start (minus your pre-padding) or some other start time,
The Wiz won't allow a timer for the same start time/service, at least I I don't believe, so one should be different (likely by 5 mins).
Or is one set for each of LCN 2 and 21 (the two ABC TV services)
Grand Designs has been on, so now that i've deleted it, I don't remember exactly what the times were

Same for "Qi" 21:28?
With QI two are listed on IceTV's website but only one timer is scheduled.  However, I don't remember if I'd deleted one or one one scheduled.  On Ice TV., they seem identical

Then we get to Adam Hills, where I can see one is set for the one of the SD services and one for the HD service (ABC TV and ABC TV HD respectively).  Again, actually two timers on the V2?
Again, only one (well, there are more on various days, but that is another matter) but, again, I don't remember if i'd deleted one, or only one got scheduled.  I am nearly sure that, in cases like these, both are scheduled to record
I did a lot of deleting in the last few days
A while ago I removed the simulcasts from my IceTV account, so that can't happen to me. I'm not convinced the IceTV scheduler is good enough to track the timers, their services, and changes and match them up.
There's been posts on the forum that tend to suggest that sometimes it doesn't get it right.
I know I'm not alone in stripping back the enabled services in one's account.



You can open http://beyonwizv2/api/timerlist in a browser [size=78%]and grab these 6 entries for each relevant timer -[/size]
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   "servicename": "10 HD",
   "realend": "25.01.2021 21:54",
   "name": "I'm A Celebrity... Get Me Out Of Here",
   "realbegin": "25.01.2021 19:25",
   "eit": 64120,
   "serviceref": "1:0:19:684:607:1014:EEEE0000:0:0:0:",
I was answering each question, instead of reading to the end  :P  Anyway, managed to open the right browser page, but not technical enough to figure out how to grab the ones you need, so sorry, have to give you the whole lot
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Judy
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Re: Repeats and double ups
« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2021, 11:06:13 PM »
I was answering each question, instead of reading to the end  :P  Anyway, managed to open the right browser page, but not technical enough to figure out how to grab the ones you need, so sorry, have to give you the whole lot


The duplicates are there in that timer list, all without descriptions and the duplicates didn't fire - perhaps you disabled them instead if deleting?


Unfortunately, that timer list doesn't know anything about IceTV so it doesn't include the Ice TimerID field.
Can you use File Commander (MENU>>Sources / Files) to navigate through Internal Flash>>etc>>enigma2 and copy the "timers.xml" file from the V2 either to your NAS, or to one of the "Movie" shares on the MicroSD card or USB drive, and then you can retrieve it from there using Windows File Explorer?

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Re: Repeats and double ups
« Reply #5 on: January 26, 2021, 12:38:24 AM »
Got it!
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Re: Repeats and double ups
« Reply #6 on: January 26, 2021, 01:13:45 AM »
Got it!
I've got it now too - and I bet you thought you couldn't achieve that, hey?

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Re: Repeats and double ups
« Reply #7 on: January 26, 2021, 01:58:04 AM »

"Grand Designs: House Of The Year: Experimental", future timers.
Start Sun Jan 31 19:34:00 -
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<timer begin="1612082040" end="1612086600" serviceref="1:0:1:231:231:1010:EEEE0000:0:0:0:" repeated="0" rename_repeat="1" name="Grand Designs: House Of The Year: Experimental" description="Experimental - Down To Earth" afterevent="auto" eit="478" tags="" disabled="0" justplay="0" always_zap="0" descramble="1" record_ecm="0" isAutoTimer="0" ice_timer_id="16673459435401946891">

[size=78%]Start Sun Jan 31 19:36:00 -[/size]
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<timer begin="1612082160" end="1612086600" serviceref="1:0:19:235:231:1010:EEEE0000:0:0:0:" repeated="0" rename_repeat="1" name="Grand Designs: House Of The Year: Experimental" description="Experimental - Down To Earth" afterevent="auto" eit="3180" tags="" disabled="0" justplay="0" always_zap="0" descramble="1" record_ecm="0" isAutoTimer="0" ice_timer_id="16672642781478678369">

[/size][size=78%]Start time differs by 2 minutes, end time is the same.  Each is for a different service, different EPG event.  Both have different Ice timer IDs.[/size]
That's a bug for sure, I'd say at the IceTV end.


[/size]"Grand Designs", previous timers:
Start Sun Jan 24 19:36:00 -
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<timer begin="1611477360" end="1611481800" serviceref="1:0:1:231:231:1010:EEEE0000:0:0:0:" repeated="0" rename_repeat="1" name="Grand Designs: House Of The Year: Experimental" description="" afterevent="auto" eit="476" tags="" disabled="0" justplay="0" always_zap="0" descramble="1" record_ecm="0" isAutoTimer="0" ice_timer_id="16673461900964833633">

[/size][size=78%]Start Sun Jan 24 19:34:00 -[/size]
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<timer begin="1611477240" end="1611481800" serviceref="1:0:1:231:231:1010:EEEE0000:0:0:0:" repeated="0" rename_repeat="1" name="Grand Designs: House Of The Year: Experimental" description="" afterevent="auto" eit="476" tags="" disabled="0" justplay="0" always_zap="0" descramble="1" record_ecm="0" isAutoTimer="0" ice_timer_id="16673459435401946890">

[/size][size=78%]Start same as above (19:34) -[/size]
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<timer begin="1611477240" end="1611481800" serviceref="1:0:1:231:231:1010:EEEE0000:0:0:0:" repeated="0" rename_repeat="1" name="Grand Designs: House Of The Year" description="Houses that Fit into their Surroundings" afterevent="auto" eit="476" tags="" disabled="0" justplay="0" always_zap="0" descramble="1" record_ecm="0" isAutoTimer="0" ice_timer_id="16671520245017746670">
<log code="5" time="1611477220">activating state 1</log>
<log code="0" time="1611477220">Found enough free space to record</log>
<log code="0" time="1611477220">Filename calculated as: &apos;/media/usb/movie/20210124 1934 - ABC TV - Grand Designs_ House Of The Year&apos;</log>
<log code="6" time="1611477220">prepare ok, waiting for begin</log>
<log code="5" time="1611477240">activating state 2</log>
<log code="11" time="1611477240">start recording from: Tuner A</log>
<log code="5" time="1611481800">activating state 3</log>
<log code="12" time="1611481800">stop recording from: Tuner A</log>
</timer>

[/size][size=78%]Only the last listed timer fired/recorded.  All 3 are for the same EPG event on the same service.  Only the last had a subtitle/short description.  End time was the same for all.  All had different Ice timer IDs.  Perhaps you disabled the first two.[/size]
Bug I reckon (no "forget" issued by the IceTV scheduling server).




I can only see 1 timer for "Qi", set for Wed Jan 27 21:19.




"Adam Hills: The Last Leg" are set for different days, only 1 timer for each -
Start Tue Jan 26 20:39 -
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<timer begin="1611653940" end="1611658200" serviceref="1:0:1:232:231:1010:EEEE0000:0:0:0:" repeated="0" rename_repeat="1" name="Adam Hills: The Last Leg" description="Tom Davis And Maisie Adams" afterevent="auto" eit="27981" tags="" disabled="0" justplay="0" always_zap="0" descramble="1" record_ecm="0" isAutoTimer="0" ice_timer_id="16672890162317130601">

[/size][size=78%]Start Wed Jan 27 21:53 -[/size]
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<timer begin="1611744780" end="1611748860" serviceref="1:0:19:235:231:1010:EEEE0000:0:0:0:" repeated="0" rename_repeat="1" name="Adam Hills: The Last Leg" description="Tom Davis And Maisie Adams" afterevent="auto" eit="2882" tags="" disabled="0" justplay="0" always_zap="0" descramble="1" record_ecm="0" isAutoTimer="0" ice_timer_id="16673460761707940049">

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Re: Repeats and double ups
« Reply #8 on: January 26, 2021, 02:00:14 AM »
Weird formatting entered by the forum software - I never entered the "size=" markup above

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Re: Repeats and double ups
« Reply #9 on: January 26, 2021, 09:17:52 AM »
All 3 are for the same EPG event on the same service.  Only the last had a subtitle/short description.  End time was the same for all.  All had different Ice timer IDs.  Perhaps you disabled the first two.
Bug I reckon (no "forget" issued by the IceTV scheduling server).

If IceTV wants to change an existing timer, all it needs to do are to re-send the timer with the details altered and the same timer id. It can do the same by doing a "forget" then a new timer id, but that isn't necessary.

I have some logs of a doubled timer that I can give to Daniel Hall when he has some time, after the database update is done.
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Re: Repeats and double ups
« Reply #10 on: January 26, 2021, 01:43:03 PM »
Thank you both.
I will wait and see what happens.   The repeats haven't disappeared after Monday, I presume they won't disappear today, so see what happens tomorrow.  I won't delete anything else, until after it recorded.  Have plenty of room now, so don't have to worry about running out of room
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Re: Repeats and double ups
« Reply #11 on: January 26, 2021, 02:37:27 PM »
I won't delete anything else, until after it recorded.  Have plenty of room now, so don't have to worry about running out of room


For any duplicates/double ups, you could disable the incorrect timer(s).  Check the IceTV guide for the program event start time, then identify the correct timer based on your pre-padding setting
e.g.  Grand Designs, start 19:42, less (e.g.) 6 mins pre-padding -> timer start of 19:36, so disable the other timer of 19:34.


For any repeats that were incorrectly scheduled, you can also disable those timers too.

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Re: Repeats and double ups
« Reply #12 on: January 26, 2021, 04:03:00 PM »
LOL  I apparently disabled the wrong one for Graham Norton.  It was out by a mile, actually missed the last few minutes of the program (and I have 20 minutes padding) (and a repeat followed straight after, which I have also deleted)  ;D
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Re: Repeats and double ups
« Reply #13 on: January 27, 2021, 11:41:45 PM »
Battlebots this week are apparently all repeats.

NCIS  (10 Bold) Monday 1 Feb, 7:30pm is the repeat of s3,ep11 called "Model Behavior" (are we correcting the spelling in Aus?)
NCIS  (10 HD)   Tuesday 2 Feb, 9pm is s18,ep4 called "Sunburn".
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Re: Repeats and double ups
« Reply #14 on: January 28, 2021, 09:32:13 AM »
Hi There,

thankyou for your emiail....NCIS is all fixed with Aussie spelling of course  :) and new ep entered for 2Feb.
Will make sure Battlebots has the R flag in place!

cheers,  Lisa
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