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IceTV EPG Content / Re: Britains Most Historically Out of Order Towns?

« on: September 03, 2019, 10:40:53 AM »

My guess is that they've decided to present the series in historical order.

You may be right but I wouldn't afford SBS with credit for the reordering.

Series 1 ran in historical order, and it's possible that SBS received some intelligence from Channel 4 that some reordering might be appropriate. Just speculating.

But who knows. I just hope there aren't too many "as we referred to in an earlier program" references

My recollection from Series 1 (not so long ago) that there were no such references, and that each episode was self contained.

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IceTV EPG Content / Re: Britains Most Historically Out of Order Towns?

« on: September 03, 2019, 09:23:02 AM »

Thanks, Alison.

I wasn't suggesting that you change the IceTV episode information unless the actual broadcast order can be discovered. I have no idea whether SBS is actually showing the episodes out of the original broadcast order or whether they've mixed up their EPG info.

FWIW the OTA EPG for tonight's episode confirms that SBS's intention at least is to screen episode 5 of series 2 Plantagenet Canterbury viz "Professor Alice Roberts tells the story of Plantagenet England by studying the history of Canterbury, Britain's Most Plantagenet Town. "

SBS moves in mysterious ways, and one has to wonder if the minion charged with the responsibility of programming these offerings from the UK has any facility with the language, or is it just that, because it is English, there is some perverse undertaking to deliberately muck things up because the program is not Special enough for this Service.

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IceTV EPG Content / Re: New shows

« on: August 30, 2019, 08:14:45 PM »

Interesting. I'd thought with the ending of season 6 that they'd wound it up. Good to hear that I was wrong.

According to this https://thekillingtimestv.wordpress.com/tag/spiral-series-7/ there will even be an eighth series.

I don't know about the credibility of the source, but they are accurate enough about the screening of series 7 in France earlier this year and about probably coming to BBC 4.

N.B. Minor spoilers in the links on that page.

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IceTV EPG Content / Re: New shows

« on: August 30, 2019, 05:19:33 PM »

Spiral Series 7 is scheduled to arrive on SBS on Demand Thursday 12 September, according to a newsletter released by SBS on 29 August.

Interestingly, for me at least, BBC had announced "while we wait for the new season of Spiral" they would be showing a reboot of the original Danish series Those Who Kill, titled "Darkness: Those Who Kill", starting this weekend on the BBC 4 Saturday night slot, two episodes a night over the next four weeks. Interesting because I always thought that SBS benefited from the BBC's expert translation of street French. Maybe BBC has already completed this, because the timing suggests that SBS will be offering Spiral 7 in advance of the BBC.

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IceTV EPG Content / Re: Tony Robinson All at Sea (again)

« on: August 22, 2019, 09:54:29 PM »

Hi raymondjpg,

I did email the guide team at SBS with the links to the correct data, but I did not get a response by close of business today, hence my waiting to respond and change our data. I hope they will officially amend their guide or we'll be the only guide with accurate information

Regards,
Alison.

Good luck with that! About a year ago SBS was advertising Tony Robinson Down Under which turned out to be Tony Robinson's Hidden Britain By Drone Series 2. They could hardly have got it more wrong. I can't believe that the program descriptions are not written on the "cans".

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IceTV EPG Content / Re: Tony Robinson All at Sea (again)

« on: August 22, 2019, 08:12:56 PM »

OK thanks Alison. For those people using the OTA EPG, last time I looked they are still streaming "Tony Robinson's Coast to Coast" for Wednesday 28 August, albeit with a program description that gives some confidence that it will be a second episode of "The Thames: Britain's Great River with Tony Robinson".

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IceTV EPG Content / Tony Robinson All at Sea (again)

« on: August 22, 2019, 10:35:14 AM »

The latest episode of one of Tony Robinson's "walks" is scheduled as one of a series of Tony Robinson's Coast to Coast, but turns out to be "Walking the Thames" the first in a series "The Thames: Britain's Great River with Tony Robinson" according to IMDB, and looks to have been first screened by Channel 5 as recently as June this year.

I'm not suggesting a name change for the series by IceTV because it is in the OTA EPG as Tony Robinson's Coast to Coast, and changing it mid-stream as it were would be confusing for folk who, like me, use both IceTV and OTA EPGs for scheduling recordings. I just note it here for accuracy.

According to IMDB and the Channel 5 website "The Thames: Britain's Great River with Tony Robinson" has four episodes. Having seen the first I would like to see the other three screened by SBS, but knowing the potential for confusion in that neck of the woods it is also possible that they screened the wrong program last night. I think it less likely, as acquisition and screening of such a recent program would in all likelihood not have been a mistake. Fingers crossed.

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IceTV EPG Content / Re: Seachange ... Wrong season number

« on: August 20, 2019, 08:31:56 AM »

A manual timer that IceTV knows nothing about will be sent to IceTV (and hence become an IceTV managed timer) if it's tickled and the PVR is in an IceTV enabled state.
It'll stay in its edited state unless IceTV decides it wants to change the timer (be that minutes, hours, or days later).

Thanks for that advice.

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IceTV EPG Content / Re: Seachange ... Wrong season number

« on: August 17, 2019, 10:27:52 AM »

Not always, if IceTV issue a change for the EPG event (e.g. start time change) then the timer will be resent with the new times and you'll lose your time changes...

...Try setting a manual timer for say, a few hours duration, and see how long it stays intact before IceTV gazump it and change it back to the duration of the "closest matching" EPG event.

I'd try it myself, but you seem to have experience with this, so maybe know the answer.

If a manual timer (not an autotimer) were set from the OTA EPG, then the PVR switched back to IceTV, would *modifying* the manual timer then trigger a report back to the IceTV server that would then be subject to IceTV modification?

According to my understanding manual timers once set will not be modified automatically with changes in the EPG, and on occasion need to be tweaked manually.

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IceTV EPG Content / Re: Seachange ... Wrong season number

« on: August 16, 2019, 07:11:34 PM »

If the timer is created when IceTV is disabled, then it is _not_ sent to IceTV, so it doesn't know about it and therefore can't touch it.
Trust me - I know this stuff.

That I will. Makes sense to me now.

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IceTV EPG Content / Re: Seachange ... Wrong season number

« on: August 16, 2019, 06:48:27 PM »

That won't work, as IceTV will get the manual timer and adjust it to match the program event it best matches to in their guide and then resend it.

That's a nuisance, if IceTV modifies a manual timer set when there are no other IceTV timers set to fire.

BazzaG could always extend the timer set for the program preceding what he saw as a Seachange repeat in the FTA EPG.

I don't see how setting a manual timer from the FTA EPG then reverting to IceTV would be any different from the situation from setting a manual timer from the IceTV EPG, but then I've never done it and you may well have experience with that process.

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IceTV EPG Content / Re: Seachange ... Wrong season number

« on: August 16, 2019, 06:16:07 PM »

Not sure that will work since IceTV provide the EPG data ... which is why I want IceTV to update their EPG.

I've only owned the Beyonwiz U4 for 2 months or so and haven't tried to set a manual timer since I been using IceTV from day 1.

I'll take a look later.

Try setting a manual timer for the time period you ascertained from the FTA EPG. Call it what you like. If Seachange is indeed broadcast as indicated from the FTA EPG it can be renamed later.

Any indication that there may be a repeat broadcast tomorrow (Saturday)?

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IceTV EPG Content / Re: Seachange ... Wrong season number

« on: August 16, 2019, 05:58:48 PM »

Well I just checked the embedded EPG data in the FTA signal and yep, Seachange is listed for Sunday 18th August @ 3pm on 9 & 9HD (Melbourne).

I have used the FTA EPG and autotimers for many years now and so far found them to be reliable, so I'd be setting a timer for Seachange on Sunday based on what you saw.

In the ACT there is a repeat scheduled for tomorrow (Saturday) in the IceTV EPG which is in accordance with what I could see in the FTA EPG. I'm not sure why ACT and Melbourne scheduled repeats should have been scheduled differently, so I'd be double checking to see if there is a Seachange repeat scheduled for tomorrow in the Melbourne FTA EPG.

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IceTV EPG Content / Re: Seachange ... Wrong season number

« on: August 16, 2019, 02:45:55 PM »

As to whether or not Seachange is on 9/9HD on Sunday arvo in Melbourne:

Ourguide, Freeview & On TV Tonight *ALL* list Seachange @ 3pm in Melbourne.

For the record yourtv.com is listing a Seachange repeat on Sunday morning (simulcast on 9 and 9HD) for the ACT, but there is no such listing in the OTA EPG for that day. Clearly a popular program to justify so many repeats, but the disparity between advertised schedules and the EPG suggests to me that the repeat timings may be a moving feast.

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IceTV EPG Content / Re: New shows

« on: August 16, 2019, 10:08:29 AM »

SBS is screening Free Solo this Sunday 18 August. Some of it terrified me. I always thought that rock climbers were mad. even when they employed ropes and harnesses. This guy does it with a bag of resin strapped to his back.