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Title: PIMPmyMCE for Vista (version 2.06.00) is out now
Post by: Daniel Hall at IceTV on February 28, 2007, 01:46:05 PM
The new PIMPmyMCE client (version 2.06.00) is now available.

It can be downloaded from http://www.icetv.com.au/setupvistamce.shtml (http://www.icetv.com.au/setupvistamce.shtml).

The above page also includes the setup instructions for Vista MCE and for the PIMP client.

This version will only work on Vista MCE.

Fixes/Improvements in version 2.06.00:

  • New integrated installer to both register the PC and setup PIMP at the same time.
  • Warnings to restart the PC when changing padding settings.
  • PIMPmyMCE client automatically loads at the end of the install process.

Fixes/Improvements in version 2.04.00:

  • Changed the way Pre and Post padding works (after changing the values a restart of the computer is needed to apply the new settings).
  • Fixed issue with recordings stopping halfway through.
  • Improved handling of cached tasks on the computer.

Fixes/Improvements in version 2.02.00:

  • Added fix for discSvc key changing after a guide download.
  • Improved memory handling.
  • Support added for Vista MCE.
  • Support added for multiple PIMP devices.

You can install this version over the top of any previous versions that have been installed.

The process for a new install in Vista is available at
http://www.icetv.com.au/setupvistamce.shtml (http://www.icetv.com.au/setupvistamce.shtml).

Please post any feedback below.
Title: Re: PIMPmyMCE for Vista (version 2.06.00) ready for testing
Post by: aswigon on March 01, 2007, 09:18:52 PM
Hi. I am still not getting extended soft padding with PIMP in Vista. I change the settings, save and then reboot but it still does 4 pre and 4 post. Anyone got any ideas? Is it a permissions issue with the registry?
Title: Re: PIMPmyMCE for Vista (version 2.06.00) ready for testing
Post by: dropbear on March 02, 2007, 07:21:06 PM
Not sure if this is related but even with this latest version I am geting the same error - media center media status aggregator service has stopped working. I then lose all scheduled recordings...
Title: Re: PIMPmyMCE for Vista (version 2.06.00) ready for testing
Post by: padster2000 on March 02, 2007, 08:30:22 PM
I'm not even getting to that stage - it installs fine, brings up the iceguideforMCE fine and says that it was successful when I enter my login details. Then the PIMP client doesn't seem to recognise this and I have no device to select in the "Device" drop down box. Any ideas anyone?  ???
Title: Re: PIMPmyMCE for Vista (version 2.06.00) ready for testing
Post by: aswigon on March 03, 2007, 07:23:08 PM
Have you created a device on the website? You need to create a "device" which will then correspond to the PIMP installation on the PC.
Title: Re: PIMPmyMCE for Vista (version 2.06.00) ready for testing
Post by: aswigon on March 03, 2007, 07:24:06 PM
Seriously.... somebody else must be experiencing the padding problem I am. Anyone? Puhlease?
Title: Re: PIMPmyMCE for Vista (version 2.06.00) ready for testing
Post by: padster2000 on March 05, 2007, 05:18:17 PM
Thanks aswigon - thought I must have been missing a really simple step somewhere  :P ... I'll try it tonight.
Title: Re: PIMPmyMCE for Vista (version 2.06.00) ready for testing
Post by: dropbear on March 05, 2007, 09:58:23 PM
any news re. the aggregator service failure?
Title: Re: PIMPmyMCE for Vista (version 2.06.00) ready for testing
Post by: aswigon on March 06, 2007, 10:27:01 AM
I am starting to feel ignored.  ???
Title: Re: PIMPmyMCE for Vista (version 2.06.00) ready for testing
Post by: Daniel Hall at IceTV on March 06, 2007, 10:44:43 AM
I am starting to feel ignored.  ???

Sorry, it has been quite busy around here recently...  :D

However there is one thing that I would like you to check if you could. Specifically what the values are for two registry keys (and also what the PIMP client has the pre and post padding set to).

If you open the registry editor in Vista (just 'regedt32' from the "Start Search" box), than navigate to the key "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Media Center\Settings\VideoSettings", under here there are two keys that are relevent, and these are "RecordingSoftPrePadding" and "RecordingSoftPostPadding". What are these keys set to?
Title: Re: PIMPmyMCE for Vista (version 2.06.00) ready for testing
Post by: Daniel Hall at IceTV on March 06, 2007, 10:54:08 AM
any news re. the aggregator service failure?

We haven't seen this in our testing as yet, and are unsure of what could be causing this.

Upon doing some searching online I have only been able to find two things regarding this:

The first is not very helpful, as there has not been any response as yet... http://thegreenbutton.com/forums/thread/91343.aspx (http://thegreenbutton.com/forums/thread/91343.aspx).

The second seems to indicate that it can have something to do with a windows update that is trying to access certain files, unfortunately it does not give much in the way of a fix for the issue...
http://www.tvtonic.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=443&sid=b5adb7570be98d0dce179349eb733c7c (http://www.tvtonic.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=443&sid=b5adb7570be98d0dce179349eb733c7c).

I will let you know if I manage to find anything else.
Title: Re: PIMPmyMCE for Vista (version 2.06.00) is out now
Post by: padster2000 on March 06, 2007, 03:47:26 PM
Just letting you know that it's working great for me after following the steps. I've rebooted a couple of time and had no issues (running Vista Home Premium 32 bit). I absolutely love being able to schedule recordings from the PIMP client on the web and mobile - great feature guys - great work!  8)

I'm now just wondering if my MCE will receive the recording update from the PIMP client if it's hibernated... I suspect not, but will give it a go... perhaps need to configure the NIC to wake on LAN or something... IF anyone's done it, please let me know.
Title: Re: PIMPmyMCE for Vista (version 2.06.00) is out now
Post by: aswigon on March 06, 2007, 04:24:25 PM
If it is hibernated it will not pick up any changes until it powers up again. Not sure whether you can schedule frequent / regular "wake ups" or not. I would think that it would need to be in Standby rather than Hibernate for that to happen.
Title: Re: PIMPmyMCE for Vista (version 2.06.00) is out now
Post by: padster2000 on March 06, 2007, 10:46:36 PM
Yeah I was thinking about setting a scheduled task every 2.5 hours or so just to wake the PC from hibernation so it can check with PIMP for any recordings I've scheduled. It hibernates after 20 minutes of inactivity and PIMP is set to update every 10 minutes so that should do the trick. I'll try it tomorrow and post my findings.
Title: Re: PIMPmyMCE for Vista (version 2.06.00) is out now
Post by: aswigon on March 06, 2007, 11:05:10 PM
I honestly don't think that will work. Unlike Standby, Hibernation completely powers off the PC and thus scheduled tasks will not wake the PC.
Title: Re: PIMPmyMCE for Vista (version 2.06.00) is out now
Post by: padster2000 on March 06, 2007, 11:30:58 PM
It'll be interesting... remember that MCE can wake the PC from hibernation...
Title: Re: PIMPmyMCE for Vista (version 2.06.00) is out now
Post by: aswigon on March 06, 2007, 11:46:21 PM
From Hibernation or from S3 Standby?
Title: Re: PIMPmyMCE for Vista (version 2.06.00) ready for testing
Post by: aswigon on March 06, 2007, 11:47:38 PM
I am starting to feel ignored.  ???

Sorry, it has been quite busy around here recently...  :D

However there is one thing that I would like you to check if you could. Specifically what the values are for two registry keys (and also what the PIMP client has the pre and post padding set to).

If you open the registry editor in Vista (just 'regedt32' from the "Start Search" box), than navigate to the key "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Media Center\Settings\VideoSettings", under here there are two keys that are relevent, and these are "RecordingSoftPrePadding" and "RecordingSoftPostPadding". What are these keys set to?

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Title: Re: PIMPmyMCE for Vista (version 2.06.00) ready for testing
Post by: Daniel Hall at IceTV on March 07, 2007, 01:02:07 PM
Post 4b0
Pre fffffda8

These should correspond to padding settings in the PIMPmyMCE client of:

Pre Padding - 10 mins
Post Padding - 20 mins

Is this correct?
Title: Re: PIMPmyMCE for Vista (version 2.06.00) is out now
Post by: aswigon on March 07, 2007, 01:03:02 PM
Hi Daniel,

Yes that is correct but shows are only being pre and post padded by 4 minutes.

Andre
Title: Re: PIMPmyMCE for Vista (version 2.06.00) is out now
Post by: padster2000 on March 07, 2007, 03:40:57 PM
From Hibernation or from S3 Standby?

My PC is set to hibernate after 20 minutes of inactivity... MCE wakes it up for scheduled recordings. I'm heading off home soon to see if my scheduled task idea worked... keeping my fingers crossed!
Title: Re: PIMPmyMCE for Vista (version 2.06.00) is out now
Post by: aswigon on March 07, 2007, 03:43:08 PM
From Hibernation or from S3 Standby?

My PC is set to hibernate after 20 minutes of inactivity... MCE wakes it up for scheduled recordings. I'm heading off home soon to see if my scheduled task idea worked... keeping my fingers crossed!

I hope it does work. Very handy if it does.
Title: Re: PIMPmyMCE for Vista (version 2.06.00) is out now
Post by: benneh on March 08, 2007, 08:48:34 AM
so are you guys aware of the channel dissappearance problems occuring with vista MCE in discussions here:

http://www.xpmediacentre.com.au/community/vista-media-center-software/17078-loosing-channels-guide-disappearing-icetv-, vista-possibly-also-mce2005.html

if you're now offering support for Vista, I hope you have a working fix or there might be quite a few support calls
Title: Re: PIMPmyMCE for Vista (version 2.06.00) is out now
Post by: Daniel Hall at IceTV on March 08, 2007, 03:47:01 PM
Hi Daniel,

Yes that is correct but shows are only being pre and post padded by 4 minutes.

Andre

We should have a new version out shortly that will fix this.
Title: Re: PIMPmyMCE for Vista (version 2.06.00) is out now
Post by: aswigon on March 08, 2007, 04:08:04 PM
We should have a new version out shortly that will fix this.

Hi Daniel,

That's awesome! Any ideas on a timeframe? And will the new version work on XP MCE?

Andre
Title: Re: PIMPmyMCE for Vista (version 2.06.00) is out now
Post by: BJReplay on March 08, 2007, 09:01:55 PM
I honestly don't think that will work. Unlike Standby, Hibernation completely powers off the PC and thus scheduled tasks will not wake the PC.
Nope, they will.  Try it :)

How do you think MCE wakes from hibernate to record?
Title: Re: PIMPmyMCE for Vista (version 2.06.00) is out now
Post by: aswigon on March 08, 2007, 09:09:47 PM
I didn't know that it could wake from Hibernate. I only knew that it could wake from Standby. Awesome!
Title: Re: PIMPmyMCE for Vista (version 2.06.00) is out now
Post by: Shane on March 09, 2007, 07:35:56 AM
I just wish now that the Xbox 360 could wake the PC across the network (ie Wake on LAN (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wake-on-LAN) with a Magic Packet).

Then my green-conscious media center system would be complete :)

Regards,
Shane.
Title: Re: PIMPmyMCE for Vista (version 2.06.00) is out now
Post by: padster2000 on March 10, 2007, 12:12:44 PM
I didn't know that it could wake from Hibernate. I only knew that it could wake from Standby. Awesome!

Just confirming that it works to everyone, I've scheduled a task to wake the system up to perform a quick command (i.e. whoami) every 2 hours. It then goes back into hibernation 20 minutes after that. My PIMP client is set to update every 10 minutes to it should update within that window. So far it's been working fine! It will be nice when the PIMP client comes with the ability to wake up the PC itself at a user defined time interval,  but it's an easy workaround nonetheless.
Title: Re: PIMPmyMCE for Vista (version 2.06.00) is out now
Post by: MagpieMDP on March 10, 2007, 05:12:53 PM
Hi guys,  now that I am posting in the corerct thread....

I have installed PIMPmyMCE for Vista on my Vista Ultimate box and all seems to be working - well done.  I have one issue though, that is causing a minor inconvenience.  When Vista wakes from sleep mode, it can sometime take a minute or so to connect properly to my wireless LAN.  However, PIMP fires up and tries to connect immediately, and then sits there with a dialogue box saying it can't connect to the IceTV server.  In the meantime, my WLAN has connected and everything should be sweet.  I'm not sure if PIMP keeps trying after a failure or not.

Is there any way to set a delay time that PIMP could wait before trying to connect to the Ice server so this error message doesn't keep popping up?

Cheers,
Mike
Title: Re: PIMPmyMCE for Vista (version 2.06.00) is out now
Post by: BJReplay on March 12, 2007, 11:35:06 PM
I just wish now that the Xbox 360 could wake the PC across the network (ie Wake on LAN (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wake-on-LAN) with a Magic Packet).

Then my green-conscious media center system would be complete :)

Regards,
Shane.

Shane, I don't own a 360, so this is probably a worthless suggestion, but...

Does a 360 include a browser?  If so, you could possibly borrow the dslreports wake on lan web page to wake your MC PC.
Title: Re: PIMPmyMCE for Vista (version 2.06.00) is out now
Post by: Shane on March 13, 2007, 07:22:27 AM
Nope no browser - MS don't plan on one at the moment either.

I've sent Larry Hryb (Major Nelson from Xbox Team at Microsoft) and email about it... so will see if anything ever eventuates.

Regards,
Shane.
Title: Re: PIMPmyMCE for Vista (version 2.06.00) is out now
Post by: aswigon on March 14, 2007, 09:31:18 AM
Daniel,

Any news on the padding fix?

Thanks.
Title: Re: PIMPmyMCE for Vista (version 2.06.00) is out now
Post by: Shane on March 14, 2007, 09:37:59 AM
Indeed - my padding has ceased working now since the 2.06.00 update, and my wife is beginning to question her faith in Media Center to record her shows... which is bad news for me :(

Any update would be appreciated.

Regards,
Shane.
Title: Re: PIMPmyMCE for Vista (version 2.06.00) is out now
Post by: Daniel Hall at IceTV on March 14, 2007, 01:48:37 PM
Hi guys,  now that I am posting in the corerct thread....

I have installed PIMPmyMCE for Vista on my Vista Ultimate box and all seems to be working - well done.  I have one issue though, that is causing a minor inconvenience.  When Vista wakes from sleep mode, it can sometime take a minute or so to connect properly to my wireless LAN.  However, PIMP fires up and tries to connect immediately, and then sits there with a dialogue box saying it can't connect to the IceTV server.  In the meantime, my WLAN has connected and everything should be sweet.  I'm not sure if PIMP keeps trying after a failure or not.

Is there any way to set a delay time that PIMP could wait before trying to connect to the Ice server so this error message doesn't keep popping up?

Cheers,
Mike

Hi Mike,

What is the error message that pops up?

Generally if the application doesn't find a network connection it will just retry after a short period of time and no message is displayed.
Title: Re: PIMPmyMCE for Vista (version 2.06.00) is out now
Post by: Daniel Hall at IceTV on March 14, 2007, 01:50:06 PM
We have a new version that fixes the padding issues, but the next release will also include a fix for new users not having there MCE ID registered and set correctly.

Hopefully this new version will be out in the next day or two.
Title: Re: PIMPmyMCE for Vista (version 2.06.00) is out now
Post by: aswigon on March 14, 2007, 02:15:45 PM
That is most excellent news! :D
Title: Re: PIMPmyMCE for Vista (version 2.06.00) is out now
Post by: Daniel Hall at IceTV on March 15, 2007, 04:31:56 PM
The new version (2.09.00) is now available on the server.

A notification with the list of fixes will be posted tomorrow.

For now the new version can be downloaded from the setup page at http://www.icetv.com.au/setupvistamce.shtml (http://www.icetv.com.au/setupvistamce.shtml).

This can safely be installed over the top of the previous version.

In brief this has fixes for the padding issues, and people receiving "Internal Server Error" when trying to register their PC.
Title: Re: PIMPmyMCE for Vista (version 2.06.00) is out now
Post by: aswigon on March 15, 2007, 09:10:35 PM
Thanks Daniel and everyone else at IceTV. Giving it a go now!
Title: Re: PIMPmyMCE for Vista (version 2.06.00) is out now
Post by: mattg on March 16, 2007, 09:52:46 PM
Any reason why the PIMP interface on the web is running so slowly.
Title: Re: PIMPmyMCE for Vista (version 2.06.00) is out now
Post by: freddyfinn on March 20, 2007, 02:57:50 PM
I keep getting a failure message in version (2.09.00). Communication failed with the supplied user information.  The remote returned an error: (500) Internal Server Error.
Pimp only connects occasionally.  I have no trouble logging in on the pimp web site.
Title: Re: PIMPmyMCE for Vista (version 2.06.00) is out now
Post by: Daniel Hall at IceTV on March 29, 2007, 03:36:41 PM
I keep getting a failure message in version (2.09.00). Communication failed with the supplied user information.  The remote returned an error: (500) Internal Server Error.
Pimp only connects occasionally.  I have no trouble logging in on the pimp web site.

More details on this can be found at http://www.icetv.com.au/iceforum/index.php?topic=609.0 (http://www.icetv.com.au/iceforum/index.php?topic=609.0)