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Title: Wallander ABC Melbourne
Post by: csutak40 on June 17, 2012, 04:32:59 AM
Is this definitely a repeat?  Not marked as such, which of course means nothing.   :-\
Title: Re: Wallander ABC Melbourne
Post by: Madeleine IceGuide on June 17, 2012, 08:27:49 AM
This is the very first episode of the UK version of Wallander. It hasn't been on the ABC before but it has been on Ch 7, which is why we have repeat flagged it. It was originally shown at the end of 2009 in Australia.

It looks like ABC has the rights to this show now. If they keep going in order then we should be seeing new eps (Series 3) in a couple of months.

Cheers
Title: Re: Wallander ABC Melbourne
Post by: prl on June 17, 2012, 10:41:59 PM
The Swedish Wallander episodes on SBS, though, are new. And Henriksson is a better Wallander than Branagh anyway ;)
Title: Re: Wallander ABC Melbourne
Post by: prl on June 18, 2012, 05:07:17 PM
 :-[

I got myself confused over this one. We've been watching episodes of the Swedish Wallander that were on SBS1 late last year (Nov/Dec). The one coming up on SBS1 1:05, Sat, 23 Jun (The Courier) is definitely one we've seen before, and SBS is correctly marking it as a repeat in their online guide. IceTV doesn't have it marked as a repeat.
Title: Re: Wallander ABC Melbourne
Post by: raymondjpg on June 18, 2012, 05:55:01 PM
:-[

I got myself confused over this one. We've been watching episodes of the Swedish Wallander that were on SBS1 late last year (Nov/Dec). The one coming up on SBS1 1:05, Sat, 23 Jun (The Courier) is definitely one we've seen before, and SBS is correctly marking it as a repeat in their online guide. IceTV doesn't have it marked as a repeat.
"The Courier" is the third  in the second 13-episode "Yellow Bird" series of Wallander with Henriksson. Are you sure it has been broadcast in Australia before? I seem to recall that SBS has just ploughed through the first 13-episode "Yellow Bird" series again, as is their wont, before treating us to a "new" series.

I'm not sure that Henriksson is a better Wallander than Branagh. They are different for sure, and I would agree that the two Yellow Bird series were more cohesive and to my mind much more enjoyable than the "English" Wallander. Without Johanna Sallstrom I thought that the second would be less captivating than the first but ended up thinking it was every bit as good.

As a matter of interest, an early player of Wallander, Rolf Lassgård, has just popped up (if you could say that about someone who likes to dominate the set) as profiler Sebastian Bergman in a new two part drama shown recently on BBC4. Ostensibly "Strong-headed, politically incorrect, abrasive and grief-stricken, Bergman has still not come to terms with the loss of his wife and daughter in the 2004 Thailand tsunami." Curious, as it is said that being caught up in the tsunami was what caused Sallstrom to become unhinged again and eventually take her own life.

For afficionados of Scandinavian crime drama, keep an eye out for The Bridge (Bron-Broen), also shown on BBC quite recently (Joint Danish/Swedish production, ten episodes about one hour each). Pretty good, but like other recent Danish offerings perhaps a little long-winded.
Title: Re: Wallander ABC Melbourne
Post by: prl on June 18, 2012, 06:36:20 PM
:-[

I got myself confused over this one. We've been watching episodes of the Swedish Wallander that were on SBS1 late last year (Nov/Dec). The one coming up on SBS1 1:05, Sat, 23 Jun (The Courier) is definitely one we've seen before, and SBS is correctly marking it as a repeat in their online guide. IceTV doesn't have it marked as a repeat.
"The Courier" is the third  in the second 13-episode "Yellow Bird" series of Wallander with Henriksson. Are you sure it has been broadcast in Australia before? I seem to recall that SBS has just ploughed through the first 13-episode "Yellow Bird" series again, as is their wont, before treating us to a "new" series.
If it starts with a motorcyclist running the Swedish border checkpoint, then yes, we've definitely seen it, but I'll record it anyway to check. We've definitely seen the following from the second series: The Crossing Guard (that's what Bing Translate tanslates Hämnden to; Border Guard may be better), The Guilt (Skulden), The Thief (Tjuven), The Cellist (Cellisten), The Priest (Prästen), The Leak (Läckan), The Sniper (Skytten) and The Angel of Death (Dödsängeln). We watched the recording of the last one only a few days ago.

We have unwatched recordings of The Ghost (Vålnaden), The Heritage (Arvet), The Collector (Indrivaren) and The Witness (Vittnet), the last 4 episodes of series 2. They were broadcast on SBS2 between Nov 13 and Dec 4 2011.

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For afficionados of Scandinavian crime drama, keep an eye out for The Bridge (Bron-Broen), also shown on BBC quite recently (Joint Danish/Swedish production, ten episodes about one hour each). Pretty good, but like other recent Danish offerings perhaps a little long-winded.
You couldn't possibly be thinking of the first series of The Killing (Forbrydelsen), could you? ;)

Anyway, I'll keep a look-out for The Bridge. We are generally fans of Scandinavian crime TV.
Title: Re: Wallander ABC Melbourne
Post by: raymondjpg on June 18, 2012, 07:11:08 PM
The episodes that you list as shown in 2011 are definitely from the second Yellow Bird series of Wallander. The title that I have for the first episode (probably translated by the BBC) is "The Revenge".

Not only the first series of Forbrydelsen, but by the time they had learned their lesson (having missed out on awards that they probably deserved) they still pumped out a 10 episode sequel mainly memorable for Sarah Lund's sweaters.

Paradoxically the longer a series goes, the better the characterisations. It doesn't always work out so well. For example Sofia Helin who plays a Swedish detective with Asperger's in Bron Broen had some difficulty with proceeding about half way through the series because she realised that she was becoming like her character. You can almost see the transition in the way she plays the part.

The latest IceTV update on what's on this week lists Vera (from the UK) coming up on Prime this Friday. It is probably the first series, in which it is said that Brenda Blethyn (a very fine actress) had some difficulty in finding her way into the part in just four episodes. I found the first series entertaining, but the second series of four episodes where she finds her feet has passages that are simply outstanding TV. Well worth watching!
Title: Re: Wallander ABC Melbourne
Post by: Madeleine IceGuide on June 18, 2012, 07:16:59 PM
The Courier has an airdate attached from September 2011 so we will repeat flag it as well.

Thus both the UK version on ABC and the Swedish version on SBS are repeats this week.

Re. Vera. We included this in our newsletter as it looks interesting. Unfortunately due to the AFL it's only being shown in half the country on Friday night. If it's not listed in your area you can still set up a series recording now, which will catch it when it's shown in other states like Victoria.

Thanks
Title: Re: Wallander ABC Melbourne
Post by: raymondjpg on August 23, 2012, 03:05:19 PM
Anyway, I'll keep a look-out for The Bridge. We are generally fans of Scandinavian crime TV.
Starts on SBS2 Wednesday 5 September.
Title: Re: Wallander ABC Melbourne
Post by: prl on August 23, 2012, 05:47:18 PM
Anyway, I'll keep a look-out for The Bridge. We are generally fans of Scandinavian crime TV.
Starts on SBS2 Wednesday 5 September.
Thanks. Will keep an eye out for it. Taking over Spiral's timeslot, I see.
Title: Re: Wallander ABC Melbourne
Post by: raymondjpg on August 23, 2012, 06:08:36 PM
Thanks. Will keep an eye out for it. Taking over Spiral's timeslot, I see.
It is in Ice's New Shows, but the most recent screenings of Branagh's Wallander on BBC1 (July 2012) based on Mankell's novels An Event in Autumn, The Dogs of Riga and Before the Frost don't show up yet. Probably a matter of time. Not well thought of by the critics from what I could see, but more focus on the character of Wallander, vying with Lewis for the award of most miserable detective on TV.
Title: Re: Wallander ABC Melbourne
Post by: prl on August 24, 2012, 10:42:21 AM
[The Bridge] is in Ice's New Shows, ...
Yes, I saw that just after I posted. Recording already set up :)

I'll watch out for the upcoming UK Wallander.
Title: Re: Wallander ABC Melbourne
Post by: raymondjpg on October 29, 2012, 02:23:35 PM
A couple of links that may be of interest:

http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2012-10-08/the-killing-3-to-air-from-november-on-bbc4
http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2012-07-13/the-best-script-since-the-killing-heading-for-bbc2
http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2012-05-28/borgen-series-three-will-likely-be-its-last-reveals-the-shows-creator

Lilyhammer was apparently scheduled to show on SBS1 in August, but I don't recall having seen it screen yet. There are no links to it on the SBS site, and a search on Lillehammer comes up with links mainly to the world game.

Title: Re: Wallander ABC Melbourne
Post by: prl on October 29, 2012, 04:50:06 PM
There are entries for Lillyhammer on IMDB and the Online TV Database. OTVDB says it first aired on Norwegian NRK1 in January this year and ran to mid-March, so it's still relatively new. IMDB says that there's a second season coming up in 2014.

OTVDB says it's in English, IMDB says English and Norwegian, which sounds more likely, since it's about a New York criminal who hides out in Norway after testifying against former colleagues.
Title: Re: Wallander ABC Melbourne
Post by: raymondjpg on October 29, 2012, 05:17:10 PM
OTVDB says it's in English, IMDB says English and Norwegian, which sounds more likely, since it's about a New York criminal who hides out in Norway after testifying against former colleagues.
It is in English and Norwegian, so subtitling is a must, at least for those of us whose first and second language is English. It has been shown in the UK already, not as popular as it was in Norway, but the Brits have come to expect sterner stuff for their Scandinavian crime drama fix. This one is what they are pleased to call a dramady.
Title: Re: Wallander ABC Melbourne
Post by: Madeleine IceGuide on October 29, 2012, 06:02:31 PM
FYI, the third series of UK Wallander starts Sunday, November 18 on the ABC.
Title: Re: Wallander ABC Melbourne
Post by: raymondjpg on October 29, 2012, 06:08:24 PM
FYI, the third series of UK Wallander starts Sunday, November 18 on the ABC.
Thanks Madeleine. I see that it is scheduled as "Coming soon" in New Shows.
Title: Re: Wallander ABC Melbourne
Post by: prl on October 30, 2012, 08:34:17 AM
Thanks for the heads up!
Title: Re: Wallander ABC Melbourne
Post by: prl on November 01, 2012, 06:18:02 PM
According to the SBS2 program, The Bridge will be replaced by a re-run of 24 Hours in Emergency.

Perhaps this topic should be re-named "Scandinavian Crime Tragics" :)
Title: Re: Wallander ABC Melbourne
Post by: raymondjpg on November 01, 2012, 06:56:14 PM
According to the SBS2 program, The Bridge will be replaced by a re-run of 24 Hours in Emergency.

Perhaps this topic should be re-named "Scandinavian Crime Tragics" :)
Perhaps they think someone will watch it?

According to Wikipedia Borgen hasn't been shown in Oz yet. Although not crime drama (unless you count politics as a crime) I find that astonishing. Particularly as the first season has so many parallels with the political situation in Australia - a woman as PM, coalition/minority government, plight of the indigenous people - it has it all, and very well done. Come on SBS!
Title: Re: Wallander ABC Melbourne
Post by: melmac on November 02, 2012, 05:37:13 PM
According to the SBS2 program, The Bridge will be replaced by a re-run of 24 Hours in Emergency.

Perhaps this topic should be re-named "Scandinavian Crime Tragics" :)

Please tell me you mean after they've finished the rest of the episodes. I've been really enjoying it and would hate to miss the ending
I was hoping the SBS might soon show Those who Kill and also Lilyhammer
Title: Re: Wallander ABC Melbourne
Post by: prl on November 02, 2012, 05:48:22 PM
According to the SBS2 program, The Bridge will be replaced by a re-run of 24 Hours in Emergency.

Perhaps this topic should be re-named "Scandinavian Crime Tragics" :)

Please tell me you mean after they've finished the rest of the episodes. I've been really enjoying it and would hate to miss the ending
...
Yes, sorry, I wasn't clear. Last Wed 31 Oct was episode 8. The final two episodes of ten will be shown on Wed 7 Nov and 14 Nov. Then the repeats of 24 Hours in Emergency start on 21 Nov.
Title: Re: Wallander ABC Melbourne
Post by: raymondjpg on November 15, 2012, 10:10:34 AM
I was hoping the SBS might soon show Those who Kill and also Lilyhammer
According to Hollywood Reporter http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/australia-sbs-lilyhammer-steven-van-zandt-332618 Lilyhammer was scheduled to premiere on SBS2 in August this year, but TV Tonight http://www.tvtonight.com.au/2012/10/sbs-2013-highlights.html hints at some time in 2013.

If they do show Those who kill (Den som draeber) I would hope that they would also screen the movie Fortidens Skygge which is a follow-up to the five-episode series.

Most likely SBS will buy into Forbrydelsen III currently screening in Denmark, and scheduled to start screening on BBC4 this Saturday 17 November. Go Sarah!
Title: Re: Wallander ABC Melbourne
Post by: raymondjpg on May 26, 2014, 02:32:06 PM
From Wikipedia:

"A third and final season [of the Swedish Wallander], containing six 90 minute episodes, aired in 2013 with Charlotta Jonsson as Linda Wallander. The first episode, adapted from the novel The Troubled Man, was released in cinemas in January 2013. The series finale aired July 30, 2013, in Sweden."

It is currently showing in the UK so likely to turn up (on SBS2?) in the not too distant future.
Title: Re: Wallander ABC Melbourne
Post by: raymondjpg on April 09, 2015, 11:51:00 AM
While we wait on Wallander, SBS starts screening The Legacy (Arvingerne) next Wednesday, 15 April. Ice foreshadowed this in "IcePicks: Shows in 2015" distributed by email in January.
Title: Re: Wallander ABC Melbourne
Post by: raymondjpg on April 15, 2015, 06:49:19 PM
I have just spotted the first of the final series of the Swedish Wallander ‘The Troubled Man’ to be broadcast on SBS One Tuesday 21 April at 10.30 pm. That is pretty late for what is in my opinion a top drawer TV series.
Title: Re: Wallander ABC Melbourne
Post by: Paul55 on April 16, 2015, 08:35:21 AM
That is pretty late for what is in my opinion a top drawer TV series.

Luckily, with a PVR, the scheduling is unimportant.
Title: Re: Wallander ABC Melbourne
Post by: raymondjpg on April 16, 2015, 04:02:29 PM
Luckily, with a PVR, the scheduling is unimportant.

That may be so, but it leaves me wondering if the curious contempt that the commercial channels have for the OZ TV audience has now filtered across to SBS (which I still regard as non-commercial, even if it has ads.) Or could it be that whoever is responsible for program scheduling at SBS has not a clue what this final series of the Yellow Bird Wallander productions represents?
Title: Re: Wallander ABC Melbourne
Post by: csutak40 on April 16, 2015, 08:08:29 PM
That is pretty late for what is in my opinion a top drawer TV series.

Luckily, with a PVR, the scheduling is unimportant.

Hmm..  Thanks for the heads up.  For some reason my scheduler didn't pick it up. Wonder why?
Title: Re: Wallander ABC Melbourne
Post by: Paul55 on April 16, 2015, 10:35:51 PM
Hmm..  Thanks for the heads up.  For some reason my scheduler didn't pick it up. Wonder why?

Is it defined in your favo(u)rites? Maybe your favourites differentiates between the Swedesh and English versions.
Title: Re: Wallander ABC Melbourne
Post by: csutak40 on April 17, 2015, 02:08:12 AM
Hmm..  Thanks for the heads up.  For some reason my scheduler didn't pick it up. Wonder why?

Is it defined in your favo(u)rites? Maybe your favourites differentiates between the Swedesh and English versions.

Nope, just the title and whether it is a repeat or not (and  no, it is not marked as a repeat)  I am still using TED/S and it is playing up ATM in all sorts of ways, but as far as I'm aware it is still marking all the shows to be recorded
Title: Re: Wallander ABC Melbourne
Post by: raymondjpg on April 17, 2015, 08:47:13 AM
Is it defined in your favo(u)rites? Maybe your favourites differentiates between the Swedesh and English versions.

I picked it up on a keyword favourite.
Title: Re: Wallander ABC Melbourne
Post by: Madeleine IceGuide on April 17, 2015, 10:32:48 AM
Hi

There are two separate series called Wallander, one British and one Swedish, so you'll have to set series recordings for each of them to get both.

Confusing matters, SBS deemed the earlier ones telemovies (ditto for Inspector Montalbano) so they were originally formatted as movies and only a keyword recording would catch it. SBS belatedly starting referring to it as a series with episodes and we followed suit.

We've added the Swedish version to our Coming Soon list , and we'll probably pop it into our newsletter next week too.

Thanks
Title: Re: Wallander ABC Melbourne
Post by: prl on April 17, 2015, 11:54:35 AM
Hmm..  Thanks for the heads up.  For some reason my scheduler didn't pick it up. Wonder why?

Is it defined in your favo(u)rites? Maybe your favourites differentiates between the Swedesh and English versions.

I can't recall whether it's true of the English series, but in the past, IceTV treated individual Swedish Wallander episodes as stand-alone TV movies. That meant that series recordings (and, I suspect, favourites) wouldn't work properly for Wallander. It's likely that a favourite set for the old Swedish Wallander wouldn't work on the new Wallander series (which IceTV now marks as a series). I previously used a program keyword search to record Wallander (now called a "Selection-Term recording" in some places, or "Preference list" in others, for some reason - please, IceTV, use consistent naming!). I wouldn't expect a favourite for the English Kenneth Branagh Wallander series to work for the Swedish series.

A series recording for this series of Wallander works just fine for me, but I never had a series recording set up for it before.
Title: Re: Wallander ABC Melbourne
Post by: prl on April 17, 2015, 11:59:41 AM
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That may be so, but it leaves me wondering if the curious contempt that the commercial channels have for the OZ TV audience has now filtered across to SBS (which I still regard as non-commercial, even if it has ads.) Or could it be that whoever is responsible for program scheduling at SBS has not a clue what this final series of the Yellow Bird Wallander productions represents?

Maybe the SBS's schedule is so full of Scandi noir (and French- and English- made Scandi noir, and Irish 9th century Scandi noir) that there's nowhere else in the schedule left to squeeze it in ;)
Title: Re: Wallander ABC Melbourne
Post by: csutak40 on April 17, 2015, 01:23:44 PM
Hmm..  Thanks for the heads up.  For some reason my scheduler didn't pick it up. Wonder why?

Is it defined in your favo(u)rites? Maybe your favourites differentiates between the Swedesh and English versions.

I can't recall whether it's true of the English series, but in the past, IceTV treated individual Swedish Wallander episodes as stand-alone TV movies. That meant that series recordings (and, I suspect, favourites) wouldn't work properly for Wallander. It's likely that a favourite set for the old Swedish Wallander wouldn't work on the new Wallander series (which IceTV now marks as a series). I previously used a program keyword search to record Wallander (now called a "Selection-Term recording" in some places, or "Preference list" in others, for some reason - please, IceTV, use consistent naming!). I wouldn't expect a favourite for the English Kenneth Branagh Wallander series to work for the Swedish series.

A series recording for this series of Wallander works just fine for me, but I never had a series recording set up for it before.


Good old TED/S  (when it works) doesn't care if it is a series or a movie, or where it was made, you can set it to search by the title (exact or not, as you choose) or even to search for the word in the description.  That is why I love TED so much :-)
Title: Re: Wallander ABC Melbourne
Post by: Dave at IceTV on April 17, 2015, 01:46:18 PM
Good old TED/S  (when it works) doesn't care if it is a series or a movie, or where it was made, you can set it to search by the title (exact or not, as you choose) or even to search for the word in the description.  That is why I love TED so much :-)
You can do that with IceTV too using keyword recordings (aka preferences)  8)

The only thing TED/S does that IceTV does not is pick which of your conflicting shows to drop this week by using your pre-set 5 star ratings.

Unlike TED/S which only works with antique SD toppies from 2003, IceTV works with many different HD recorders. As IceTV works with the latest 3 tuner PVRs that can record multiple shows per tuner (as long as the shows being recorded on each tuner come from the same TV network) you really don't need a rating system as all of your shows can usually be recorded without needing to drop any (and all record with padding).
Title: Re: Wallander ABC Melbourne
Post by: raymondjpg on April 17, 2015, 03:03:12 PM
Maybe the SBS's schedule is so full of Scandi noir (and French- and English- made Scandi noir, and Irish 9th century Scandi noir) that there's nowhere else in the schedule left to squeeze it in ;)

I take your point but the Yellow Bird Wallander productions have a distinguished history dating back more than 10 years. I would have thought this final series justified a time slot more like 8.30 pm particularly as they are all 90 minute telemovie productions.

Edit: I should have said that the first in the series ‘The Troubled Man’ is more of a hybrid telemovie and cinema release, not particularly successful IMO. Fortunately the other five in the series restore the intimacy of the Yellow Bird TV productions.
Title: Re: Wallander ABC Melbourne
Post by: csutak40 on April 17, 2015, 11:14:38 PM


The only thing TED/S does that IceTV does not is pick which of your conflicting shows to drop this week by using your pre-set 5 star ratings.


True, but as I only have two tuners to play with ATM...

BTW, TED  did pick up Wallander...  Only  problem being (which is what confused me) it only creates a list of possible timers, doesn't actually create a schedule ATM, so when looking at a particular listing,  it  looks as though it hasn't got a timer