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Title: Poll: Repeats Only Option
Post by: lukem on October 12, 2011, 11:19:42 AM
Do you see the need for a "Repeats Only" Series Option in addition to "First Runs" and "First Runs & Repeats"?
Title: Re: Poll: Repeats Only Option
Post by: kender on October 24, 2011, 11:00:53 PM
With so many shows now being repeated on sister stations or being given an encore screening, by adding a "REPEATS ONLY" option it would allow the user to avoid known clashes of shows by allowing the user to determine which airing of any given show is recorded, eg. record the repeats of Crownies (on ABC2) rather than the first run (on ABC1), thus increasing the functionality of ICE TV for the user.
Title: Re: Poll: Repeats Only Option
Post by: Lisey on January 12, 2012, 02:47:47 PM
How do you vote?  I vote yes.
Title: Re: Poll: Repeats Only Option
Post by: bodogbodog on January 13, 2012, 06:19:27 PM
I dont care
Title: Re: Poll: Repeats Only Option
Post by: grampus on January 13, 2012, 06:32:14 PM
With so many shows now being repeated on sister stations or being given an encore screening, by adding a "REPEATS ONLY" option it would allow the user to avoid known clashes of shows by allowing the user to determine which airing of any given show is recorded, eg. record the repeats of Crownies (on ABC2) rather than the first run (on ABC1), thus increasing the functionality of ICE TV for the user.
It's my guess that the channels aren't silly, they will be trying their best under the rules to get viewers to watch/record their own.
I suspect that it will become very tricky for the providors like Ice to cater for all possibilities.

Like watch only the second viewing 'cause its late in the night, on the sister channel and not tagged as a repeat.  The prime time is already taken up with a couple of different channels being recorded.
Like trying to record a double episode, when you have configured only once per day, trying to overcome the repeats thyat aren't flagged.
Title: Re: Poll: Repeats Only Option
Post by: prl on January 13, 2012, 06:35:43 PM
I think that many of these problems would be fixed by reverting to the previous IceTV Interactive option to record on a particular service, rather than, or as well as, to record only from a particular network.
Title: Re: Poll: Repeats Only Option
Post by: IanL-S on February 10, 2012, 05:28:54 PM
I would also support being able to elect LCN on which programs are to be recorded. This would be useful when the same program is transmitted on more than one LCN (for example One on LCN 1 and LCN 12, ABC 1 on LCN 2 and LCN 21 and SBS 1 on LCN 3 and LCN 31 (also LCN 30 for HD version); and 7Digital LCN 7, LCN 70 an LCN 71). These relate to Melbourne, multiple LCN may differ depending on the region,.
Title: Re: Poll: Repeats Only Option
Post by: castow on May 15, 2012, 12:16:47 PM
Definitely need a 'repeats only' for the reasons that Kender explained. Cheers
Title: Re: Poll: Repeats Only Option
Post by: Dave at IceTV on May 15, 2012, 02:35:39 PM
There is an 'Only Repeats' option for keyword recordings. 

The Advanced Search has the following choices:
- Repeats and new shows
- Only repeats
- Only new shows

Note: Setting Keyword Recordings to 'repeat:yes' only works if that keyword's 'Record' option is set to 'First runs and repeats' in My Shows. 
Title: Re: Poll: Repeats Only Option
Post by: grampus on May 15, 2012, 08:18:23 PM
and then there are the repeats of the repeats.

Mash, for example we will generally see the same show repeated, sometimes on the same day which can be got around by recording only one per day, but occasionally I think there has been a repeat of the repeat after midnight.
It will make it hard to cater for all variances I think.
Title: Re: Poll: Repeats Only Option
Post by: lukem on May 16, 2012, 01:45:47 PM

Hmm.

I wonder if the ad breaks are the same in both versions of the repeat.

We hope to provide "Smarter Recording" later this year, so the system can use repeats of repeats to better organise your recording schedule.
Title: Re: Poll: Repeats Only Option
Post by: sydbloke on August 21, 2012, 01:50:03 PM
This issue would be partly fixed by allowing us to select the channel we want to record the series on not just the network. For instance I want to record the Big Brother repeats on GO because the Nine broadcast clashes with several other shows but I can't specify GO, only 'Nine'.

Btw, this is the 3rd attempt at posting this...your recaptcha functionality is really poor, if you get the words wrong it gives you a message but when you click 'back' your post is lost.
Title: Re: Poll: Repeats Only Option
Post by: paullings on May 20, 2015, 05:45:40 AM
Definitely yes but much better to be able to select individual channels rather than networks.
Title: Re: Poll: Repeats Only Option
Post by: DeltaMikeCharlie on May 20, 2015, 01:12:58 PM
I think that the term "Repeat" has lost its meaning in some ways.  M*A*S*H (for example) is 40+ years old and every episode is technically a "Repeat".  There needs to be a way to designate a repeat within the latest rerun season.

I think that there actually needs to be two classifications: "Repeat" and "Rebroadcast".  A "Repeat" is anything that has ever been broadcast previously, whereas a "Rebroadcast" is a repeat of a programme that was broadcast in the last (let's say) 7 days.

I have had a look at the current ICE XML feed and there is a "previously-shown" tag, but that it not always updated.

I can see the MASH episode "838-99318" at 2015/05/24 08:30:00 UTC and the same episode at 2015/05/24 22:00:00 UTC.  Both show the "previously-shown" tag as "20101101".  This can not be true for the later broadcast as the programme was broadcast just a few hours previously.

If the "previously-shown" tag was updated properly, then it should be possible to decide whether to record the first or second occurrence.  As the XML feed has the same "episode-num" tags, it should also be possible to look forward in the EPG for a reoccurrence of the episode and flag that to be recorded, a "next-scheduled" tag could also be created and included in the XLM feed for this purpose.

Under the classifications described above, a "First Run" can be a "Repeat", but not a "Rebroadcast".  You could skip the "First Run" if there is a clash and record the "Rebroadcast" in its place.
Title: Re: Poll: Repeats Only Option
Post by: prl on May 20, 2015, 06:32:30 PM
... a "Rebroadcast" is a repeat of a programme that was broadcast in the last (let's say) 7 days ...
Tut, tut. In Broadcasterland, that's an "Encore". Because you called out for it. Or something.

I'm still a bit unclear about why a "Repeats only" setting would be better for the usual intended purpose than being able to make a recording channel-specific rather than just broadcaster-specific. These "Encore" showings are invariably on the same broadcaster, but usually on a different channel.

Of course, there's still the problem that some shows are so good they need to be "Encored" more than once.