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Title: WTV Perth
Post by: chrisb on March 16, 2010, 05:03:13 PM
Hey IceTV, have you started talking to WTV in Perth about getting hold of their TV guide so we can have support when they launch? :) They're community, so maybe they'll be nice and give it to you. :)

Hint hint :)

http://www.wtvperth.com.au/
Title: Re: WTV Perth
Post by: chrisb on March 27, 2010, 12:50:51 PM
Transmitter powerup on the 1st of April and programming starts on the 10th.
Title: Re: WTV Perth
Post by: Mitch IceGuide on March 29, 2010, 10:23:20 AM
We revisit the community channel possibility of inclusion for every region regularly. We've had talks and are awaiting them to provide the information in a technically viable way. They are keen and the ball is in their court. Thanks.
Title: Re: WTV Perth
Post by: chrisb on March 31, 2010, 04:16:57 PM
Out of curiosity, what's the issue with including them? They're digital so I'd hope they'd be treated like any other channel.

Thanks for contacting them.


Title: Re: WTV Perth
Post by: tonymy01 on March 31, 2010, 09:48:39 PM
You can't just steal someone's EPG data and put it onto your own website.  They have to set up a mechanism to allow you to access their schedule.   Just look at the Nein debacle ICE faced over the past years.
Title: Re: WTV Perth
Post by: prl on March 31, 2010, 10:37:24 PM
You can't just steal someone's EPG data and put it onto your own website.  They have to set up a mechanism to allow you to access their schedule.   Just look at the Nein debarcle ICE faced over the past years.
There are two issues you've perhaps conflated. Licensing and a mechanism for transfer. The impression I had from Mitch's post was it was the latter that he was talking about. Nine was about licensing (or the lack of it).

And... no 'r' in "debacle".
Title: Re: WTV Perth
Post by: chrisb on April 01, 2010, 12:07:10 AM
You can't just steal someone's EPG data and put it onto your own website. 


I realise that. I was hoping that community TV would be more friendly than the commercials.

Title: Re: WTV Perth
Post by: tonymy01 on April 01, 2010, 03:14:16 AM
And... no 'r' in "debacle".
Oh, thanks.  I have been working ~18hour days the past few days ;-), now fixed for you.   I have my spell checker on but missed the underlined error in my rush to post.   No, I was merely implying that just because a channel is now digital doesn't mean that ICE suddenly can put this channel into their EPG listings, as they need a source of EPG listings first (esp for the probably random nature of a community channel meaning it won't be easy to do the ICE strategy of watching a channel to determine the typical schedule).
And just because that channel may have published a schedule doesn't mean ICE is free to use that schedule without an agreement in place.   I was merely trying to simplify the whole Channel Nine issue into a simple sentence as to why ICE can't magically create an EPG for C31.
Title: Re: WTV Perth
Post by: chrisb on April 10, 2010, 11:51:11 AM
It's launch day! :)

Title: Re: WTV Perth
Post by: melmac on April 14, 2010, 04:20:42 PM
Hopefully the guide won't be too far away, they used to sometimes show old B&W movies which I like to record
Title: Re: WTV Perth
Post by: chrisb on May 02, 2010, 10:04:41 PM
So... why can't Ice do whatever voodoo magic they do to get TV guides from the commercials if they can't get the official feed from WTV up?

Can we get an update please?

Thanks.



Title: Re: WTV Perth
Post by: Nomad on May 03, 2010, 10:03:56 AM
So... why can't Ice do whatever voodoo magic they do to get TV guides from the commercials if they can't get the official feed from WTV up?

Can we get an update please?

Thanks.

It appears to be a bit of a stalemate, according to WTV  IceTv have to contact them.  Below is a reply from WTV's facebook page.

WTV Ice TV have to contact us. We don't have the resources to track down every program guide operator.


rgds Damon
Title: Re: WTV Perth
Post by: tonymy01 on May 03, 2010, 12:26:34 PM
So... why can't Ice do whatever voodoo magic they do to get TV guides from the commercials if they can't get the official feed from WTV up?
I couldn't imagine that community tv would have many promos for shows nor regular weekly schedule.   It would be a nightmare to use the techniques ICE used (use?) for the likes of the regular commercial channels.
Title: Re: WTV Perth
Post by: chrisb on May 06, 2010, 07:06:17 PM
For those who are interested. This is from WTV on Facebook:

WTV Matt: we are busy working on the broadcast EPG, episode tracking databases and keeping the station up and running. Believe me it has not been smooth sailing on the tech side. We are running the station with a handful of volunteers and 3 staff. As you can imagine, time is stretched. We will get around to signing an agreement with IceTV but for now, this is not a priority. Unfortunately there is one person to help things move this along, and his spare time is zero at the moment.


Tivo doesn't have WTV yet either apparently.

Title: Re: WTV Perth
Post by: chrisb on May 11, 2010, 09:04:48 PM
From Facebook: WTV :) and TiVo agreement was signed last week. TiVo have notified us that they are planning to launch WTV's EPG over the TiVo service next week. Make take a little while longer...

Title: Re: WTV Perth
Post by: chrisb on May 17, 2010, 07:47:19 PM
Tivo now has WTV guides.
Title: Re: WTV Perth
Post by: Matt at IceTV on May 27, 2010, 02:36:38 PM
Hi Chris,

I will try touching base again with WTV to see if we can add their listings to our EPG service. Hopefully we will get a more positive response from them. Especially as they are now obviously supplying TiVo with basically the same data we would require in order for IceTV members like yourself, to easily record their shows.

Cheers,

Matt
Title: Re: WTV Perth
Post by: chrisb on June 01, 2010, 09:39:31 PM
Thanks Matt. I was just checking WTV's guide on another TV Website and thought i'd pop in and say Hi before going through the pain of a manual timer ;)

On the bright side, this is making me appreciate Ice more. :)

Title: Re: WTV Perth
Post by: chrisb on June 16, 2010, 09:59:15 PM
Bump. :)
Title: Re: WTV Perth
Post by: chrisb on July 19, 2010, 10:39:10 AM
How's it going Ice? :)

Title: Re: WTV Perth
Post by: melmac on July 21, 2010, 11:32:54 PM
Kinda hoping when I re-scan tommorow to get the new ABC News 24 channel that I might find WTV perth there as well ..... hopefully ?? sigh call me a hopeless optimist :-\
Title: Re: WTV Perth
Post by: Nomad on July 21, 2010, 11:39:57 PM
This is from the WTV facebook page, so hopefully not long now

WTV UPDATE: An agreement has been made between WTV and IceTV. We look forward to working with Ice TV long into the future.
about 2 weeks ago


rgds Damon
Title: Re: WTV Perth
Post by: chrisb on August 02, 2010, 10:47:27 PM
Maybe someone from Ice can email me when something fun is on WestTV :)

Title: Re: WTV Perth
Post by: chrisb on August 31, 2010, 12:34:16 AM
Hi Ice People. :) How's WestTV going? :)