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IceTV Applications => Smart Recording website and General questions => Topic started by: j s on May 13, 2008, 11:08:15 AM

Title: "Future Programming" enhancement.
Post by: j s on May 13, 2008, 11:08:15 AM
On the assumption that IceTV adds new ("coming soon") programs to its database when they are announced even if they haven't been scheduled yet would it be possible to have a way of searching for these and setting up a series recording to catch them when they do start.  This would also apply to series in recess (between seasons). It's annoying to have to wait till they appear in the weekly guide before a series can be defined.
Title: Re: "Future Programming" enhancement.
Post by: marcusstringer on May 13, 2008, 03:02:32 PM
Good Idea
Title: Re: "Future Programming" enhancement.
Post by: martymonster on May 13, 2008, 04:47:41 PM
I was thinking the same thing myself.
Title: Re: "Future Programming" enhancement.
Post by: Vortical on May 13, 2008, 06:26:30 PM
Totally Agree  ;D
Title: Re: "Future Programming" enhancement.
Post by: tonymy01 on May 13, 2008, 09:33:36 PM
I have found the only way of capturing series that aren't on this week that I want to ensure will be captured is to go to the "Most Popular" list and choose "most popular this year" and setting a series recording from that (e.g "The 4400", e.g. "Terminator: TSCC").  However, in the absence of those shows being on at the moment I have no idea if this trick works or not yet.   In the widget my "My Guide" (or "My Shows" webpage) looks fine, with red filled series dots against the shows listed.   But that doesn't help if the show hasn't aired yet, or the show I want to record isn't all that popular :-)
Title: Re: "Future Programming" enhancement.
Post by: j s on May 14, 2008, 02:40:37 PM
I have found the only way of capturing series that aren't on this week that I want to ensure will be captured is to go to the "Most Popular" list and choose "most popular this year" and setting a series recording from that (e.g "The 4400", e.g. "Terminator: TSCC").  However, in the absence of those shows being on at the moment I have no idea if this trick works or not yet.   In the widget my "My Guide" (or "My Shows" webpage) looks fine, with red filled series dots against the shows listed.   But that doesn't help if the show hasn't aired yet, or the show I want to record isn't all that popular :-)
How did you get that to work Tony?

I was able to do it with Doctor Who because repeats are currently showing on ABC2 but I tried with Heroes (as a test) and no recording options were available.
Title: Re: "Future Programming" enhancement.
Post by: prl on May 14, 2008, 03:34:59 PM
I have found the only way of capturing series that aren't on this week that I want to ensure will be captured is to go to the "Most Popular" list and choose "most popular this year" and setting a series recording from that (e.g "The 4400", e.g. "Terminator: TSCC").  However, in the absence of those shows being on at the moment I have no idea if this trick works or not yet.   In the widget my "My Guide" (or "My Shows" webpage) looks fine, with red filled series dots against the shows listed.   But that doesn't help if the show hasn't aired yet, or the show I want to record isn't all that popular :-)
How did you get that to work Tony?

I was able to do it with Doctor Who because repeats are currently showing on ABC2 but I tried with Heroes (as a test) and no recording options were available.

I think all you can do is add them as a Favorite, then if the series comes on again it will appear in My Upcoming Shows when it gets into the IceTV schedule as a current program. That is where a notification would be useful if an inactive show can't be scheduled for recording.
Title: Re: "Future Programming" enhancement.
Post by: Marc on May 14, 2008, 03:58:27 PM
We hear you. Stay tuned :)
Title: Re: "Future Programming" enhancement.
Post by: Marc on May 21, 2008, 02:07:53 PM
We've partially implemented this now... if you do a search from either the home page (http://www.icetv.com.au/) or TV guide (http://www.icetv.com.au/interactive/tvguide) it'll search the next 7 days and if there's no results it'll search by either the title or title and series description on our database, then show the results (there's a message that's displayed to let you know that the search didn't find something in the next 7 days, but it did find something).

Searching for "californication" is a good example of it in action.

From there you can add the show as a favourite or get to the series information page with upcoming shows (although there won't be any!) and comments. We haven't added the ability to set a series record yet, but that is planned with some other improvements we're working on.
Title: Re: "Future Programming" enhancement.
Post by: GarFin on May 21, 2008, 02:27:40 PM
We've partially implemented this now... Searching for "californication" is a good example of it in action.

FYI: There is a spelink mistook in the button "Series Details and Upcomming Eppisodes"
Title: Re: "Future Programming" enhancement.
Post by: Marc on May 21, 2008, 04:24:31 PM
Its alll mooch betar nowh. thunks.  :)
Title: Re: "Future Programming" enhancement.
Post by: smaka on July 29, 2008, 08:29:44 PM
All these enhancements are great.  This is the sort of "value add" that makes IceTV stand out.

One enhancement I would like to see is a list of brand new shows/series that are starting each week or are returning in a new series.  Quite often I end up missing the first episode of a new show simply because I didn't realise that it was on.


smaka
Title: Re: "Future Programming" enhancement.
Post by: Marc on July 30, 2008, 09:19:39 AM
That would be good.

We have Most Popular New Series (http://www.icetv.com.au/interactive/mostpopular/new_series/1), but you'd have to watch that like a hawk to find a new series the first week it's showing.
Title: Re: "Future Programming" enhancement.
Post by: smaka on July 30, 2008, 10:42:03 AM
Yes - you could pick up quite a lot of new shows using the existing Interactive features, but it would require a bit of time and effort and even then it probably wouldn't get them all.

The New Shows list could be another option as part of Interactive/widget etc.  You would still need to look at it each week, so maybe this sort of feature would work well as a subscription mailing list - so that it pops into your inbox each week.

and while I am rambling along this path, using genre categories to break the list down - so I could break the list down into genres.

smaka
Title: Re: "Future Programming" enhancement.
Post by: prl on July 30, 2008, 11:41:07 AM
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maybe this sort of feature would work well as a subscription mailing list - so that it pops into your inbox each week.
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I think it would be a useful addition to the automatic notification (http://www.icetv.com.au/iceforum/index.php?topic=1193.0) suggestion I made a couple of days ago.
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and while I am rambling along this path, using genre categories to break the list down - so I could break the list down into genres.

smaka
Or maybe just let the suggestions algorithm loose to do the selection.
Title: Re: "Future Programming" enhancement.
Post by: Marc on July 30, 2008, 02:59:22 PM
So just to summarise and clarify, the things everyone seems to want are:

- To be able to see all new shows added
- To be able to series record or add a show as a favourite when it's not in the next 7 days (we've implemented part of this)
- Keyword based recording
- Keyword based favourites
- Some kind of notifications for upcoming shows and/or new series (email, RSS or some other method)

Please note that I'm not saying we're committing to these features, I'm just clarifying what's been said in this thread so we can take the feedback on board. Having said that, all the staff use the service, so chances are we want the things you want (and as you'd expect, we do have some new things already on the way).
Title: Re: "Future Programming" enhancement.
Post by: prl on July 30, 2008, 03:14:10 PM
Hi Marc, all that sounds good.

This may be something that you intend to address anyway under "series record or add a show as a favourite when it's not in the next 7 days ", but there's a discrepancy between the Widget and the Web interface in setting recordings on shows that aren't currently showing.

If a show is in the IceTV database, but isn't currently showing, a recording can be set for it from the widget (if it's in My Shows), but not (so far as I can see) from the Web interface, either from My Shows or by searching in Most Popular (this year). Both interfaces allow the show to be set as a favourite.