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IceTV General => General Discussions => Topic started by: SJ2571 on March 31, 2008, 10:50:02 PM

Title: How does IceTV compile its guide?
Post by: SJ2571 on March 31, 2008, 10:50:02 PM
I know that IceTV doesn't get any "help" from the commercial channels, so how does it get a full 7-day guide without help? Do they have spies on the inside or something? ;D
Title: Re: How does IceTV compile its guide?
Post by: prl on April 01, 2008, 12:06:18 PM
Does this post (http://www.icetv.com.au/iceforum/index.php?topic=987.msg4377#msg4377) have enough detail for you? The relevant bits are towards the end of the post.

In part, IceTV simply pays people to watch mind-numbing amounts of TV. An especially large amount when they were getting going, and when new services are introduced, like the new commercial HD multicasting.
Title: Re: How does IceTV compile its guide?
Post by: SJ2571 on April 02, 2008, 10:37:48 PM
Nope, I still don't get it. If they're watching TV to compile the guide, then how do they watch TV in the future? How can they know what will be shown at 12pm in 2 days time? They're obviously not watching in the future, unless they've created a time machine.
Title: Re: How does IceTV compile its guide?
Post by: prl on April 03, 2008, 11:27:11 AM
I never said that just watching the programs was all they did.

If you really want to get down to the details, pvogel
posted a link to the judgment in the NineMSN suit (http://www.beyonwiz.com.au/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?p=13184#13184) against IceTV on the Beyonwiz Forum.

You need to scroll down a bit past the keyphrase summary to the actual text of the judgement. The description of the IceTV guide collation process starts at para 120. The process of synopsis generation is described in para 154 ff.

And as for the "mind-numbing amounts of TV", here's how IceTV got the ball rolling:
Quote from: Nine Network v IceTV 2007, para 125
Mr Rilett was living in Adelaide in August 2004 and began work by preparing from his memory a handwritten list of over 100 programs. Once that task was complete, Mr Rilett watched television for approximately three weeks. He described this exercise as ‘torture’. He kept a notepad by the television and recorded by hand details of the programs screened including name, channel, day of broadcast, start time, sometimes the duration, classification and whether the program offered closed captions, widescreen and/or sometimes high definition (‘the Notebook Guide’). Mr Rilett continued watching television until he had noted the programs for a 24-hour period for each day of the week for the three commercial free to air networks.
Title: Re: How does IceTV compile its guide?
Post by: SJ2571 on April 03, 2008, 11:45:56 PM
Okay, I get it now. They have their own lists of programmes with descriptions, etc, then simply predict and/or copy the time slots for each from other published guides, such as TV Week and YourTV. No copyright is infringed as a result. Good concept! :)