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Offline Mantorok

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Should Heroes on 7HD be considered a repeat?
« on: November 28, 2008, 03:43:53 PM »
Next Thursday (4-Dec-2008) Channel Seven is showing the same Heroes episode (The Eclipse: Part 1) at 10:30pm on 7SD and then 11:30pm on 7HD.  The 11:30pm episode is flagged as a REPEAT.  I've got my Ice Interactive set up to only record first run episodes on 7HD so its not picking it up.

I think in this case the episode should not be considered a repeat if it was first run on the same day and a different channel.

What do others think?

NOTE:  I've only checked this for the Melbourne region.

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Re: Should Heroes on 7HD be considered a repeat?
« Reply #1 on: November 28, 2008, 04:06:23 PM »
Yes, Heroes on Seven HD should be considered a repeat, since that episode is shown in an earlier timeslot on Seven SD.

Adding any exclusions of this type, really defeats the purpose of the 'first run' option.

If you only want the HD versions, than just switch to recording first run and repeats (on Seven HD) for Heroes series.

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Re: Should Heroes on 7HD be considered a repeat?
« Reply #2 on: November 28, 2008, 04:14:36 PM »
That will work as long as Seven don't put any genuine repeats of Heroes on their 7HD channel.

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Re: Should Heroes on 7HD be considered a repeat?
« Reply #3 on: November 29, 2008, 01:44:24 PM »
Next Thursday (4-Dec-2008) Channel Seven is showing the same Heroes episode (The Eclipse: Part 1) at 10:30pm on 7SD and then 11:30pm on 7HD.  The 11:30pm episode is flagged as a REPEAT.  I've got my Ice Interactive set up to only record first run episodes on 7HD so its not picking it up.

I think in this case the episode should not be considered a repeat if it was first run on the same day and a different channel.

What do others think?

NOTE:  I've only checked this for the Melbourne region.

I disagree. (sort of  ;D)  I am always disappointed when I record something thinking it is a new ep, only to discover that it is a repeat (only new on the HD channel)  Weeds is a good case in point.  I suppose, if the title of the episode is shown so that it is easy to see that it is repeated from earlier on the day, you could have a point.  But what if someone only wants to record it once on either SD or HD?  As someone else has already said, it is better to record something that is a repeat than to miss something that was marked repeat and wasn't.
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Re: Should Heroes on 7HD be considered a repeat?
« Reply #4 on: November 30, 2008, 06:11:58 PM »
Next Thursday (4-Dec-2008) Channel Seven is showing the same Heroes episode (The Eclipse: Part 1) at 10:30pm on 7SD and then 11:30pm on 7HD.  The 11:30pm episode is flagged as a REPEAT. 

I think in this case the episode should not be considered a repeat if it was first run on the same day and a different channel.

I'm with you, Mantorok (sort of).  A user might set a series recording to "This Channel Only" and assume that "First Runs" means "First runs on this channel only".  (Which it doesn't, but by the time the user figures that out, the episode has passed and all the user can do is post an indignant message to the IceTV forums.)

I'd like to see the option extended to encompass choices like:
- First run only.
- First run on this channel.
- Not yet recorded by me*.
- In the latest currently-screening season.
- Any occurrence.

On a side note, I wonder how this episode of Heroes will be handled by the "Prefer SD" and "Prefer HD" keyword thingies, given that they start at different times.

* Yes, this would involve a database and added complexity.  But it's probably what most users mean when they ask for First Run Only.

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Re: Should Heroes on 7HD be considered a repeat?
« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2008, 07:23:39 PM »
I am always disappointed when I record something thinking it is a new ep, only to discover that it is a repeat (only new on the HD channel)  Weeds is a good case in point. 

Re. Weeds. Yes, this should be marked as a repeat because 9HD has started all over again from the beginning. Working out the exact point where new eps will begin is a problem because it's a Channel Nine show. (I believe they showed Season 1 on SD and then pulled it soon after Season 2 started... ??) This seems to be why it's been left as is and not repeat flagged.

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Re: Should Heroes on 7HD be considered a repeat?
« Reply #6 on: December 05, 2008, 12:03:24 AM »
Next Thursday (4-Dec-2008) Channel Seven is showing the same Heroes episode (The Eclipse: Part 1) at 10:30pm on 7SD and then 11:30pm on 7HD.  The 11:30pm episode is flagged as a REPEAT.  I've got my Ice Interactive set up to only record first run episodes on 7HD so its not picking it up.

I think in this case the episode should not be considered a repeat if it was first run on the same day and a different channel.

What do others think?

NOTE:  I've only checked this for the Melbourne region.

I would personally agree with the 7HD show not being listed as a repeat as it was on earlier in the day.  I have my ICE interactive set the same as yours Mantorok.

Perhaps I need to rethink how I want to use the recording options as I did assume ""This Channel Only" and assume that "First Runs" means "First runs on this channel only"" as listed by futzle.


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