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Re: Padding Missing?
« Reply #15 on: April 10, 2012, 04:00:53 PM »
Hey guys,

Thanks for the feedback. We are trying to isolate the cause of the problem. So I have a quick question for people suffering from missing padding.

What TV network's recordings regularly do not record with the padding?

Is it Nine, GEM and GO?

Or Seven, 7two and 7mate?

Or Ten, Eleven and One?

Or ABC channels?

Or SBS channels?
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Re: Padding Missing?
« Reply #16 on: April 10, 2012, 06:01:46 PM »
Hey guys,

Thanks for the feedback. We are trying to isolate the cause of the problem. So I have a quick question for people suffering from missing padding.

What TV network's recordings regularly do not record with the padding?


Off the top of my head, this is happening for the series Modern Family for me.

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Re: Padding Missing?
« Reply #17 on: April 10, 2012, 07:21:07 PM »
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Re: Padding Missing?
« Reply #18 on: April 11, 2012, 10:28:50 AM »
I definitely recall having the problem on Nine, Seven, 7-Mate and Ten (which is every station I have series recordings on).  So, for me it doesn't appear to be network-specific.
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Re: Padding Missing?
« Reply #19 on: April 11, 2012, 12:37:50 PM »
It has been happening to me an all networks, to the point that I am avoiding recording anything on the Humax if at all possible. First preference is now the Topfield, second is the Foxtel IQ and as a last resort, the Humax.
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Re: Padding Missing?
« Reply #20 on: April 11, 2012, 04:09:42 PM »
Does anybody know if this problem is specific to Humax with IceTV, or does it happen with the freeview guide also?  I read a post earlier in this thread which indicates that the problem occurrs when the IceTV guide data doesn't match the Freeview data wrt program start/end times.

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« Reply #21 on: April 11, 2012, 04:52:17 PM »
Does anybody know if this problem is specific to Humax with IceTV, or does it happen with the freeview guide also?  I read a post earlier in this thread which indicates that the problem occurrs when the IceTV guide data doesn't match the Freeview data wrt program start/end times.

I would have thought the Humax wouldn't give a crap for the FV guide if it's been told to use Ice...

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« Reply #22 on: April 11, 2012, 05:33:44 PM »
Does anybody know if this problem is specific to Humax with IceTV, or does it happen with the freeview guide also?  I read a post earlier in this thread which indicates that the problem occurrs when the IceTV guide data doesn't match the Freeview data wrt program start/end times.

I would have thought the Humax wouldn't give a crap for the FV guide if it's been told to use Ice...

Lingfish,

See

http://forum.icetv.com.au/iceforum/humax/37/padding-missing/3333/msg16512#msg16512

and

http://forum.icetv.com.au/iceforum/humax/37/padding-missing/3333/msg16514#msg16514

for info from Humax support about this issue.  Just wondering if anyone has verified that Freeview does in fact work....

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« Reply #23 on: April 11, 2012, 07:05:34 PM »
The program information in those posts appears to be the Now/Next information, which is not part of the Freeview EPG.

Humax is not signed up as a Freeview EPG manufacturer.

There's a nice topic started by DrP on the DTV Forum about the quality (or otherwise) of the Freeview EPG. However, I doubt very much it has anything to do with the Humax problems being discussed here.
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Re: Padding Missing?
« Reply #24 on: April 11, 2012, 07:27:40 PM »


Lingfish,

See

http://forum.icetv.com.au/iceforum/humax/37/padding-missing/3333/msg16512#msg16512

and

http://forum.icetv.com.au/iceforum/humax/37/padding-missing/3333/msg16514#msg16514

for info from Humax support about this issue.  Just wondering if anyone has verified that Freeview does in fact work....

Yep, I've read that; I didn't get my point across I guess -- why bother consulting the FV data at all, was my point ;)  Seems like a horrid bug to me, getting more and more frustrating by the day considering how much the 7500 cost me.

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Re: Padding Missing?
« Reply #25 on: April 11, 2012, 08:05:20 PM »
Hey guys,

Thanks for the feedback. We are trying to isolate the cause of the problem. So I have a quick question for people suffering from missing padding.
What TV network's recordings regularly do not record with the padding?
Is it Nine, GEM and GO?
Or Seven, 7two and 7mate?
Or Ten, Eleven and One?
Or ABC channels?
Or SBS channels?

Seems to be random for me too, although most of my recording at the moment is on ABC (kids shows) , SBS and Nine .

For example, if you have a series recording for a 30 minute show that's on nightly and have a 3 minute padding at the start and 10 minute padding at the end, the total record time for the show should be 43 minutes .. if you look at the recorded shows for a week, you can see that some are 33 minutes (i.e end padding is missing) or 40 minutes (i.e start padding is missing).

Dave @ ICETV , try setting up a daily series recording with start and end padding and having the Humax switched 'off' and see whether you see the same thing .. 
« Last Edit: April 11, 2012, 08:38:39 PM by andya »

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Re: Padding Missing?
« Reply #26 on: April 11, 2012, 10:35:49 PM »
Without minimising the problems that the apparent use of the Now/Next data cause on Humax, there really is only one solution to the padding problem - for broadcasters to actually adhere to their schedules and put back ad/promo breaks between programs.

I'm not holding my breath on that one, though.

As I said before, the Now/Next data is not part of the Freeview EPG.

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Re: Padding Missing?
« Reply #27 on: April 13, 2012, 03:54:15 PM »
I have a masterpiece 2400 and the Humax 7500, the masterpeice is fine with padding only the humax has issues..

I seem to be missing both lead-in and lead-out padding, so my shows are exactly 30mins or 60mins etc

The shows I have noticed it on (off the top of my head) are 'Alcatraz' and 'Bondi Rescue' which are on Nine and Ten... [edit] I have just checked and ABC does it too, maybe 90% of the time, though I noticed that 'Top Gear' seems to be OK...

I tend to agree with an earlier post, in my experience the topfield seems the most reliable, the strong units reset all the time and get patched constantly without fixing anything until they discontinue the unit and stop supporting it, and I had nothing but trouble with the Beyonwiz DP-2 (exchanged for my topfield masterpiece) though others seem to love them..
« Last Edit: April 13, 2012, 11:52:28 PM by jeisner »

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Re: Padding Missing?
« Reply #28 on: April 14, 2012, 05:58:44 PM »
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Does anybody know if this problem is specific to Humax with IceTV, or does it happen with the freeview guide also?
If you switch the Humax guide menu option to 'EPG Type = Humax' then it does not add padding at all to any recordings set as once, weekday, weekly or daily recordings. It does try to add padding to 'Humax series recordings' but not all channels provide guide data guide that supports series recordings and not all programs can be set as a series recording. So the padding does not work all the time even when not using IceTV.

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Re: Padding Missing?
« Reply #29 on: April 14, 2012, 08:44:08 PM »
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Does anybody know if this problem is specific to Humax with IceTV, or does it happen with the freeview guide also?
If you switch the Humax guide menu option to 'EPG Type = Humax' then it does not add padding at all to any recordings set as once, weekday, weekly or daily recordings. It does try to add padding to 'Humax series recordings' but not all channels provide guide data guide that supports series recordings and not all programs can be set as a series recording. So the padding does not work all the time even when not using IceTV.

Wow.

So is progress being made on this issue?  My Humax is my first foray into PVRs via Ice, and had high hopes :/


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