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Offline marcusstringer

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Over time shows
« on: October 30, 2007, 10:38:34 AM »
Channel Seven has a bad habbit of running over time.

Is there anyway you compensate for this in the guide?

Does the legal win mean that the stations are obligated to correct this very frustrating thing they are doing?

Because when I record something I am always missing the last bit because I always forget to extend the recording time by up to a least 15 minutes in some cases...

I know the usual shows like Dancing with the stars, big brother, Idol etc run over but normal nights do the same thing for no reason...
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Offline Daniel Hall at IceTV

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Re: Over time shows
« Reply #1 on: October 31, 2007, 03:34:15 PM »
Unfortunately all of the commercial networks do this.

The guide itself cannot compensate as it is never known before hand if a show will be running late.

The legal win was about other things, and has no effect on getting the stations to actually stick to there advertised start times.

There are some things that you can do to try and overcome this from within Media Center. One is that when you setup a series recording, set it up using the "Advanced Record" step, and change the setting for "Stop Later" and it will automatically extend the whole series (this can be done for one-off recordings as well). The other option is to use the IceTV Interactive application, one of the features of this allows you to setup 'padding' to be greater than the 4 minutes either side of the recording (which are the defaults within Media Center), this way you don't need to remember to extend each recording, it is done automatically.
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Re: Over time shows
« Reply #2 on: November 03, 2007, 12:34:38 PM »
I've just signed up for the service and I'm extremely happy so far, except for this over time issue.

I know it is just the commercial stations causing this issue, but it does make recording multiple shows on the same channel immediately after each other difficult.
When I try this, I end up with 2 files, the first missing the last 10 minutes, with that 10 minutes being in the next file.  I know this is something that can be corrected by chopping up the files and patching them together, but it does complicate what would be a simple process.

One solution I've seen discussed is recording based on pulse codes sent from the station, as opposed recording based on the scheduled time.

I don't even know if the stations send this pulse code, is this something that will be possible in the future?

Thanks and keep up the good work
Lime

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Re: Over time shows
« Reply #3 on: November 03, 2007, 03:33:17 PM »
While it would make things much easier, none of the networks in Australia broadcast any 'pulses' to say when shows actually start and stop.

It's definitely possible to have something like this implemented for Digital TV, with the way the current television networks are going it is however highly unlikely that it will be.

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Re: Over time shows
« Reply #4 on: November 04, 2007, 08:36:00 PM »
Why does commercial TV hate it's viewers so much? It's not like we pay thier bills by watching their mind poisoning stuff, when really we should be out socialising or reading something peer-reviewed :(

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Re: Over time shows
« Reply #5 on: November 06, 2007, 05:03:53 PM »
Thanks Daniel,
Didn't know about that, Ill see what happens

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Re: Over time shows
« Reply #6 on: November 08, 2007, 04:06:54 PM »
It seems like the best strategy to combat this, as Daniel's mentioned, is to add automatic padding to all recordings. I have 30mins and it catches almost everything except for the occasional Idol or Big Brother finale overflow (I'm not recording Idol or Big Brother, but the programs after get affected).

You end up using more HD space, but you never have to worry about missing the end of a program. Having two tuners definitely helps too!

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Re: Over time shows
« Reply #7 on: November 09, 2007, 12:05:33 PM »
Yeah, that the reason I have four tuners.

It's very frustrating.


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